Can we get a clarification here? Does the bolded prediction mean before Jan 20, 2021 (end of first term)? Or are you allowing for Trump to win reelection and be removed before Jan 20, 2025 in the event of his reelection?
Can we get a clarification here? Does the bolded prediction mean before Jan 20, 2021 (end of first term)? Or are you allowing for Trump to win reelection and be removed before Jan 20, 2025 in the event of his reelection?
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-16/trump-vows-go-after-horseface-stormy-daniels-and-her-3rd-rate-lawyer-avenatti
If I long for the days when "winning" didn't involve the POTUS in a Twitter war with a porn star, am I really a conservative at heart?
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Yeah...this is correct, and it's not spin. Avenatti has beaten Trump like a drum so far. Trump is in all kinds of both political and potential legal trouble because of Avenatti. The affairs that Avenatti has helped come to light are things that independents who voted for Trump last time or people who just wanted to give an outsider a chance and voted for him are now disgusted by. It has affected Trump negatively, and that is inarguable.
Dude, just stop. Time to face reality. Avenatti got his ass kicked.
Mueller never
Clownpole forever
Just not true. Trump wanted Daniels not to be able to talk...well, she can, she has a best-selling book, she has made more money since not only dancing but apparently doing some more porn, Cohen pleaded guilty to two felony counts and fingered Trump as a co-conspirator. This is all bad news for Trump both politically and perhaps legally eventually. Just makes everyone know just how big of a liar he is. Avenatti has bested Trump so far. He did fail to produce with regard to Kavanaugh, in part because a pissed off Trump wouldn't allow him to, but even counting that, Avenatti wins...easily.
agip wrote:
PIO! wrote:
Wars tend to pull POTUS approval ratings up, not down.
I was being specific to those two presidents.
Shortly after Reagan took office we had a recession
During Truman's admin the Korean War took a very bad turn and Truman took blame for it. Hurt him badly in approval ratings.
Fair points.
I concede my error.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-16/trump-vows-go-after-horseface-stormy-daniels-and-her-3rd-rate-lawyer-avenatti
Ha! Empty threat. The truth is on the side of Avenatti and Daniels. Cohen has already pleaded guilty! Trump paid her...he has admitted it...why did he do that? Out of the goodness of his heart?
3 weeks until the elections.
This is all correct. Even I haven't GUARANTEED anything this time. It's all a prediction.
But with betting, don't do it...it's low class, and you become a low class person as soon as you do it.
Horsey Ivanka wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
zerohedge com /news/2018-10-16/trump-vows-go-after-horseface-stormy-daniels-and-her-3rd-rate-lawyer-avenatti
Zerohenge = ROFLOL
Trump said Stormy looks like Ivanka. So, Ivanka = horse-face.
Well, Ivanka DOES have horse teeth. I actually can't believe many think she's attractive. Her voice is annoying too.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-16/trump-vows-go-after-horseface-stormy-daniels-and-her-3rd-rate-lawyer-avenatti
The people who find this behavior appealing in a sitting President must either have small penises themselves, or are with someone who does. I mean, that's the only way it makes any sense.
Silliest of Willies wrote:
This quacks me up wrote:
http://oi68.tinypic.com/308wsqw.jpgNow even CNN is admitting it was stupid! Love watching Lib attempts to "get Trump" fall flat- err, you know, FLOP.
So I'm going to change amend your sequence of events:
"Funny how fast news moves nowadays. Just 24 hours ago, it was "Hey look, she was right!"... then it was "Trump owes her $1M!"... then it was "But wait, she's only 1/500th?"... then Cherokee Nation tells her to "just please stop, you are not one of us"... and now, 24 hours later, she's a laughing stock... and finally, they actually ADMIT how stupid it was." HA
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/16/politics/elizabeth-warren-donald-trump-pocahontas/index.htmlMueller never.
Clownpole forever.
Result for Democrat - you get caught embellishing, you get crucified and probably hit a ceiling
Result for Republican - you lie openly without shame or admittance, you become speaker of the house or President
Those are the standards
PIO! wrote:
agip wrote:
I was being specific to those two presidents.
Shortly after Reagan took office we had a recession
During Truman's admin the Korean War took a very bad turn and Truman took blame for it. Hurt him badly in approval ratings.
Fair points.
I concede my error.
cheers
a rare concession! You bring honor to yourself.
Not "Igy".
Fat hurts wrote:
_its_baddude wrote:
Wow, it must be true that Trump makes Liberals lose their mind.
Fats, you have gone over the deep end.
1) Trump will leave office when his 2 terms are up or if he is not reelected in 2020.
Perhaps I have gone over the deep end. But we will see.
Any normal person would follow the Constitution and leave office when it is time.
I don't think Trump is a normal person. It would be wrong to assume that he would just follow the rules. He's never given me the impression that he cares about following rules or laws unless he is forced to do so.
Therefore, Trump will only leave office by force.
You are correct about Trump in your description of him. I just can't believe he would possibly stay in office when he either has been voted out or impeached and convicted or a second term ends. He would have to have the military, the Congress, and a whole bunch of other people be on board with that. Just no way.
By the end of this current term is my prediction. I have said this many times already.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Perhaps I have gone over the deep end. But we will see.
Any normal person would follow the Constitution and leave office when it is time.
I don't think Trump is a normal person. It would be wrong to assume that he would just follow the rules. He's never given me the impression that he cares about following rules or laws unless he is forced to do so.
Therefore, Trump will only leave office by force.
"Therefore, Trump will only leave office by force."
Another Clownpolian Classic.
When has Trump done something just because it was the right thing to do?
I'm serious. Can you give me an example?
Flagpole wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Dude, just stop. Time to face reality. Avenatti got his ass kicked.
Mueller never
Clownpole forever
Just not true. Trump wanted Daniels not to be able to talk...well, she can, she has a best-selling book, she has made more money since not only dancing but apparently doing some more porn, Cohen pleaded guilty to two felony counts and fingered Trump as a co-conspirator. This is all bad news for Trump both politically and perhaps legally eventually. Just makes everyone know just how big of a liar he is. Avenatti has bested Trump so far. He did fail to produce with regard to Kavanaugh, in part because a pissed off Trump wouldn't allow him to, but even counting that, Avenatti wins...easily.
Word has it that she is going to pay Trump's fees back in all ones.
I get how it sounds.
But nobody is answering my questions about Trump's character.
What is about him that leads you to believe he would just follow the rules because it's the right thing to do? Do you think he's going to suddenly change who he is?
Flagpole wrote:
He (Avenetti) did fail to produce with regard to Kavanaugh, in part because a pissed off Trump wouldn't allow him to...
WTF? The Dems thought that Avenetti was hurting their case against Kavanaugh and knew his claims were bogus.
Flagpole wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Perhaps I have gone over the deep end. But we will see.
Any normal person would follow the Constitution and leave office when it is time.
I don't think Trump is a normal person. It would be wrong to assume that he would just follow the rules. He's never given me the impression that he cares about following rules or laws unless he is forced to do so.
Therefore, Trump will only leave office by force.
You are correct about Trump in your description of him. I just can't believe he would possibly stay in office when he either has been voted out or impeached and convicted or a second term ends. He would have to have the military, the Congress, and a whole bunch of other people be on board with that. Just no way.
Yes, he would need the military to be successful. I don't think he will be able to control the military, but he will try.
If he loses in 2020 he will claim that the election was rigged and he will try to stay in power. In that scenario, this ends with Trump being forced from office under military threat. It does not end with him stepping down because that's what the Constitution says.
Watch closely at who is appointed to replace General Mattis.
Fat hurts wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
You are correct about Trump in your description of him. I just can't believe he would possibly stay in office when he either has been voted out or impeached and convicted or a second term ends. He would have to have the military, the Congress, and a whole bunch of other people be on board with that. Just no way.
Yes, he would need the military to be successful. I don't think he will be able to control the military, but he will try.
If he loses in 2020 he will claim that the election was rigged and he will try to stay in power. In that scenario, this ends with Trump being forced from office under military threat. It does not end with him stepping down because that's what the Constitution says.
Watch closely at who is appointed to replace General Mattis.
for the record, I disagree. Trump has at least some money. He will not want to go to jail for the rest of his life. He will resume his old life.
He will tell us that Hillary ran an elaborate vote fraud operation in between selling uranium to russians, while on lunch breaks from her sex trafficking operation out of the basement of a pizza place...then he will walk.
Into a studio, where he will be a right wing talk show host, which is what he really wants to do.