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5 years ago 09/24/2018 10:01am EDT

re: Racket

Those Trump voters didn't like Hillary Clinton.

Notice how the need to have conservatives on the court didn't prevent Obama from being elected twice.

Or 60 Democrats from becoming senators in 2008.

Women are more motivated now to vote Democrat than when Hillary was the nominee.

So, the question is - is this ram-through process motivating more Republicans or Democrats to vote?

I think turnout will be higher than ever on both sides for a mid-term.

But the Hilary hating factor is removed.

The Trump hating factor is amplified.

And now the new women's movement is in the mix.

The Democrat advantage across the country is large.

But it's the local and state-wide elections that matter.

5 years ago 09/24/2018 10:04am EDT

re: Racket

Racket wrote:
I think you are gravely mistaken. Millions of Republicans held their noses and voted for Trump and pulled the R lever...

The one who is gravely mistaken is you. The Republican party is dead. Republicans are not the some as Trumpkins. A very large number of real Republicans will not vote R this coming election. Some will vote L. Some will not vote at all.

5 years ago 09/24/2018 10:18am EDT

re: you are gravely mistaken

you are gravely mistaken wrote:
Racket wrote:
I think you are gravely mistaken. Millions of Republicans held their noses and voted for Trump and pulled the R lever...
The one who is gravely mistaken is you. The Republican party is dead. Republicans are not the some as Trumpkins. A very large number of real Republicans will not vote R this coming election. Some will vote L. Some will not vote at all.

Is that like how in 2016 the Republican party was dead and none of them would vote for Trump? I don't know why everyone is acting like this is some horrible new Republican party and they're "dead now." They've literally been pulling the exact same stupid bullsh!t since 1994. Go watch some videos of good ol Newt and Dennis back in the day and you'll realize nothing has changed

5 years ago 09/24/2018 10:23am EDT

re: Racket

Racket wrote:
you are gravely mistaken wrote:
The one who is gravely mistaken is you. The Republican party is dead. Republicans are not the some as Trumpkins. A very large number of real Republicans will not vote R this coming election. Some will vote L. Some will not vote at all.
Is that like how in 2016 the Republican party was dead and none of them would vote for Trump? I don't know why everyone is acting like this is some horrible new Republican party and they're "dead now." They've literally been pulling the exact same stupid bullsh!t since 1994. Go watch some videos of good ol Newt and Dennis back in the day and you'll realize nothing has changed

Keep your blinders on.

5 years ago 09/24/2018 10:27am EDT

re: you are gravely mistaken

you are gravely mistaken wrote:
Racket wrote:
Is that like how in 2016 the Republican party was dead and none of them would vote for Trump? I don't know why everyone is acting like this is some horrible new Republican party and they're "dead now." They've literally been pulling the exact same stupid bullsh!t since 1994. Go watch some videos of good ol Newt and Dennis back in the day and you'll realize nothing has changed
Keep your blinders on.

Stay in high school kid

5 years ago 09/24/2018 10:28am EDT

re: L L

And in more relevant news it now looks like Rosenstein is getting canned.

5 years ago 09/24/2018 10:29am EDT

re: Racket

Racket wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
The FBI certainly DOES investigate "he-said-she-saids". The FBI investigated Anita Hill's accusations and also investigated "womanizing" accusations in the failed nomination of John Tower to be Secretary of Defense.
It is part of the FBI's job to do background checks. The FBI is able to interview people under penalty of obstruction of justice. Therefore, they are the agency best able to establish facts that can be brought before the senate to help them render a decision.
The problem we have here is that Republicans are scared to death of the facts. They don't want anyone to do a credible investigation. That's why Republicans and Trump have effectively told the FBI to stand down.
I think you're using the term "investigation" pretty liberally. An FBI investigation here could consist of looking at the available evidence, maybe an interview or two although presumably sworn testimony will be part of the available evidence, and deciding it would be impossible to determine. So technically they'd open an "investigation," but it's not gonna be some 1940s noir detective film.

The FBI does all kinds of investigations. It's the "I" in FBI. I think I've read enough about how these investigations have been carried out in the past to know basically what it entails for a nominee.

Republicans are afraid to allow even a cursory FBI investigation that would last for just a few days.

Since Trump won't direct the FBI to investigate, it is up to reporters to enlighten the public as best they can. That is what you are seeing now. We are getting press accounts without the benefit of an official FBI investigation where witnesses are required to tell the truth.

Frankly, Trump has shot himself in the foot by not getting a truthful account that senators and the public can rely on. With an official FBI account, this wouldn't be as much of a circus.

5 years ago 09/24/2018 10:30am EDT

re: Racket

More relevant is: Yet another new accuser has filed charges against Kavanaugh I'm Maryland.

https://mont.thesentinel.com/2018/09/24/supreme-court-nominee-kavanaugh-faces-more-allegations/

5 years ago 09/24/2018 10:31am EDT

re: Racket

Racket wrote:
And in more relevant news it now looks like Rosenstein is getting canned.

Based a an unconfirmed accusation.

Now in Kavanaugh's case . . .

5 years ago 09/24/2018 10:34am EDT

re: Fat hurts

Fat hurts wrote:
Frankly, Trump has shot himself in the foot by not getting a truthful account that senators and the public can rely on. With an official FBI account, this wouldn't be as much of a circus.

Yes, I agree. I was only pointing out that it likely wouldn't turn up much, but it would give it a sense of thoroughness and credibility.

5 years ago 09/24/2018 10:42am EDT

re: Racket

Racket wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Frankly, Trump has shot himself in the foot by not getting a truthful account that senators and the public can rely on. With an official FBI account, this wouldn't be as much of a circus.
Yes, I agree. I was only pointing out that it likely wouldn't turn up much, but it would give it a sense of thoroughness and credibility.

Seeing as there are now five or more accusers, why are you convinced the FBI wouldn't turn up much? The FBI is very thorough. They find people to speak with about you you have long ago forgotten about.

5 years ago 09/24/2018 10:45am EDT

re: The FBI

The FBI wrote:
Racket wrote:
Yes, I agree. I was only pointing out that it likely wouldn't turn up much, but it would give it a sense of thoroughness and credibility.
Seeing as there are now five or more accusers, why are you convinced the FBI wouldn't turn up much? The FBI is very thorough. They find people to speak with about you you have long ago forgotten about.

Good point. Maybe he's guilty as sin. Doesn't really look favorable for him.

5 years ago 09/24/2018 10:46am EDT

re: women #4 and #5

5 years ago 09/24/2018 11:27am EDT

re: you are gravely mistaken

you are gravely mistaken wrote:
Racket wrote:
Is that like how in 2016 the Republican party was dead and none of them would vote for Trump? I don't know why everyone is acting like this is some horrible new Republican party and they're "dead now." They've literally been pulling the exact same stupid bullsh!t since 1994. Go watch some videos of good ol Newt and Dennis back in the day and you'll realize nothing has changed
Keep your blinders on.

This is the greatest show on earth.

https://youtu.be/7PkJPM1B4yM http://i-cdn.embed.ly/1/display?key=fd92ebbc52fc43fb98f69e50e7893c13&url=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FzcLtd7k.jpg

5 years ago 09/24/2018 11:31am EDT

re: Racket

Racket wrote:
you are gravely mistaken wrote:
Keep your blinders on.
Stay in high school kid

Yep. So, let' see... how many firings and resignations is this now??? lol

To all the buttercups out there, and there's plenty, buckle up.

Trump has come.

The 'rats and roaches have no swamp to live in.

Next stop... a little resort in Cuba.

5 years ago 09/24/2018 11:44am EDT

re: Racket

No, the Republican party is not dead.

They will probably lose this election and lose more ground in 2020.

Then they will at least win the House back in 2022, as happy Democrats stay home and don't bother to vote as Republicans seething for revenge come back out in force.

Nothing gets people out to vote more than voting against the party in power.

5 years ago 09/24/2018 11:59am EDT

re: Flagpole

Speaking of resignations, and conspiracy's, and 25th A's, and... 12/5/2017

Flagpole wrote:
If Trump doesn't resign first, he WILL be impeached. Whether or not the Senate convicts him and he is removed that way is another issue. I think that if Trump decides to stay in office rather than resign that he will be removed.
So many ways and things to get rid of him at this point. Conspiracy against the United States, obstruction of justice, emoluments clause, 25th Amendment.
Flynn has major dirt on this dirt bag.
Trump is done.

5 years ago 09/24/2018 12:19pm EDT

re: Racket

Racket wrote:
And in more relevant news it now looks like Rosenstein is getting canned.

All of the news organizations are rushing to give different headlines on this.

It's been reported that he will fired.

It's been reported that he has agreed to resign.

It's been report that he absolutely will not resign and would have to be fired.

It doesn't look like he will be there by week's end.

If he resigns, Trump can appoint someone of his choosing that has already been President Appointed Senate Confirmed.

If he fires him, there has to be a conformation hearing for whoever he appoints.

This goes for Jeff Sessions when his time comes.

One more thing to look for to see how it shakes out.

5 years ago 09/24/2018 12:57pm EDT

re: L L

L L wrote:
Racket wrote:
And in more relevant news it now looks like Rosenstein is getting canned.
All of the news organizations are rushing to give different headlines on this.
It's been reported that he will fired.
It's been reported that he has agreed to resign.
It's been report that he absolutely will not resign and would have to be fired.
It doesn't look like he will be there by week's end.
If he resigns, Trump can appoint someone of his choosing that has already been President Appointed Senate Confirmed.
If he fires him, there has to be a conformation hearing for whoever he appoints.
This goes for Jeff Sessions when his time comes.
One more thing to look for to see how it shakes out.

The WH has been in meltdown mode since the very beginning. I’m sure Trump is fuming right now. What’s great is he has been looking for any good excuse to fire Rosenstein, yet he knows it would be the end of him. I bet you everyone is advising him to refrain from any move until after this confirmation and after the midterms. Total capitulation will come after the election. I think Trump will take desperate measures regardless of the election outcomes. He will get rid of Sessions and Rosenstein and dump Mueller in the process. He probably figures he can complicate and muddy things up enough to relieve some of the pressure. He’s going to be a 1 term Pres.

5 years ago 09/24/2018 1:00pm EDT

re: Trollminator

Trollminator wrote:
He probably figures he can complicate and muddy things up enough to relieve some of the pressure.

And I think he may be right.

He could fire, Sessions, Rosenstein and Mueller all in one day and his base would back him and the Republican Congress would do nothing.

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