Monkeys typing wrote:
I don't see Pence getting the party nomination unopposed and I don't see him winning the nomination if it's competitive.
Ted Cruz would be more likely if Trump implodes before 2020.
Ted Cruz might not even win reelection to the Senate. He's in an ever tightening race.
Fat hurts wrote:
Monkeys typing wrote:
I don't see Pence getting the party nomination unopposed and I don't see him winning the nomination if it's competitive.
Ted Cruz would be more likely if Trump implodes before 2020.
Ted Cruz might not even win reelection to the Senate. He's in an ever tightening race.
.... and the rest of you made that point quite well. That's what I get for responding before reading the rest of the posts.
So here is something new to think about, though I did say something about it in passing a couple of weeks ago.
According to 538, the R's have a 1 in 4 chance of holding the house. That's a pretty good shot.
If Republicans are still in control of the house next year, there will be no stopping the Trump train. It's game over.
Fat hurts wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Ted Cruz might not even win reelection to the Senate. He's in an ever tightening race.
.... and the rest of you made that point quite well. That's what I get for responding before reading the rest of the posts.
So here is something new to think about, though I did say something about it in passing a couple of weeks ago.
According to 538, the R's have a 1 in 4 chance of holding the house. That's a pretty good shot.
If Republicans are still in control of the house next year, there will be no stopping the Trump train. It's game over.
If Republicans do keep control - likely thanks to Russian assistance - then expect them to support Trump - not stop him - when he declares a national emergency and ceases future elections. At that point, Trump and TrumpCongress will start removing democrats from office and installing Trump's good people to take over. .… That is Trump and McConnel's dream solution to remaining in power as their numbers dwindle.
Trollminator wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
BS. How about an F-? Donald Trump is a crook, and it will be proven. He is beginning to ramp up talk of "getting involved" with the DOJ, so basically doing everything he can to stop the Mueller investigation. He is a dictator wannabe, he doesn't understand how our government works, he's a serial liar, and on and on and on. He is by far the worst President we have ever had, and he brings out the worst in those who follow him.
If it were possible to get a lower grade than an F, he would deserve that, and you don't have to be a Democrat to know so; just have to be a rational thinking person.
On a separate note - the way the country is reacting to McCain’s death is literally eating Trump alive. You’ve got people from all walks of life praising him. There is no way Trump hasn’t thought about the probable turnout for his own funeral and the public reaction. He must know it will be at best non-existent and more likely “good riddance”. He absolutely cannot stand it when reality pierces his little ego bubble. Reminds me of a colleague who is a member of a prestigious Westchester County country club. He said every now and then Trump’s driver would walk in and announce Trump was there if anyone wanted to play with him. You would rarely see it happen. He is a reject.
That is the cornerstone for the entire Trump phenomenon. Trumpettes - true Trumpettes like Lying Gary, Rigged, etc.) - are all losers who have felt disrespected their entire lives. Lying Gary literally reeks of this victimhood. Trump is a kindred spirit - never got the respect from "the elites" that he always thought he deserved and so badly craved. Hence the bottomless pit of hatred from Trump and the Trumpettes for scientists, the media, the "establishment", Hollywood . . .
Yeah... wrote:
Wow. Well, thanks, I guess, to several people for making my point. And more sincere thanks to people like Awsi Dooger and Alan (runningart2004)--there are others--who realize that putting everything into Slot A or Slot B, with no possibility of degree or nuance, is both intellectually lazy and incongruent with reality.
As it happens, I detest Donald Trump and would be happy to see him out of the presidency--though I do fear what could happen with Mike Pence in the Oval Office. (Yes, I'm one of the folks who think that that could be worse.) But that doesn't blind me to the fact that the Trump Administration--which was what I specified--has done some good things, to go with many bad ones.
And as a result of that previous sentence, some people will conclude that I'm a troll--because everyone has to be on one team or the other (there are only two teams), and the only possible grades are A+ and F-, right? Well, that attitude comes under the heading of intellectual laziness or else intellectual dishonesty--take your pick, I guess. And it's a sad statement about the tribalism that increasingly has come to infest American culture.
You may indeed detest Donald Trump. Honestly I couldn't care less if you do or not.
But what is certain is that you are incredibly full of yourself. Declaring that anyone who grades Trump at A or F is intellectually dishonest? Seriously, mate? Who made you the judge of this such that anyone who deviates too far from your own assessment is intellectually dishonest?
You are incredibly full of yourself and, as I pointed out earlier, simply wrong.
Now, is their anything else that you'd enjoy sharing about yourself (besides being wrong, doubling down on being wrong, and being stunningly full of yourself)?
thier end game wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
.... and the rest of you made that point quite well. That's what I get for responding before reading the rest of the posts.
So here is something new to think about, though I did say something about it in passing a couple of weeks ago.
According to 538, the R's have a 1 in 4 chance of holding the house. That's a pretty good shot.
If Republicans are still in control of the house next year, there will be no stopping the Trump train. It's game over.
If Republicans do keep control - likely thanks to Russian assistance - then expect them to support Trump - not stop him - when he declares a national emergency and ceases future elections. At that point, Trump and TrumpCongress will start removing democrats from office and installing Trump's good people to take over. .… That is Trump and McConnel's dream solution to remaining in power as their numbers dwindle.
I don't buy the 'republicans will end elections if they keep all three branches' That's cray cray.
to me the more interesting question is what happens if there is some kind of attack on the day of the elections - if the grid goes down in a key state, if the exit polls don't line up with the reported results, etc.
Then what? Rerun the elections? The 'winners' wil not want to have a do-over and given the paranoid insanity of the GOP, they may not submit to the courts this time.
from what I've heard, the NSA types are pretty worried about that kind of a situation.
I’ve said that the Republicans retaining the House would be a huge victory for Trump.
If the Democrats can’t win back the House under these circumstances, then it simply isn’t winnable for them.
The 2006 and 2008 Democrat victories were a backlash against Bush.
I think people are a lot more disastisfied with Trump right now - by far.
The 2010 loss was complacency and low turnout of Democrats mixed with fired up Republicans.
The 2012 loss while Obama won was the product of gerrymandering.
It shows how Democrats could get the majority of votes in a state like Ohio, but that state get the majority of representatives elected to Congress.
Because there are more rural than urban districts across the country, Democrats need to have a lot more total votes to gain a slim majority.
Everything Trump Touches Dies: A Republican Strategist Gets Real About the Worst President Ever
Chronicles the tragicomic Trump story from the early campaign days through election night, and exposes the damage Trump has done to the country and to the Republican Party
https://www.npr.org/2018/08/07/635978021/in-everything-trump-touches-dies-few-are-spared
O’Rourke wrote:
L L wrote:
It’s going to be harder for Ted Cruz to run for President after he loses his Texas Senate seat to Democrat Beto O’Rourke.
O’Rourke is saying all the right things, and easily staying out of Cruzian political slandering game. People are interested in what he has to say, and that he got his nickname from Hispanic kids he grew up with who respected him. The attempt by Cruz to diminish O’Rourke for playing and touring in a Punk Rock band when he was young backfired, spectacularly. It only served to bestow a coolness factor on O’Rourke. . . . And remember that ultra-uber-mega-religious Cruz is the one who posted topless photos of Melania Trump in an attempt to win the Republican presidential nod. There have been few fakes bigger in politics than Cruz . . . of course, Trump be the biggest fake of all time.
Cruz is just another vile individual who was given a voice and made relevant by the likes of Gary.
Don’t you just love this photo. Just cracks me up: It was my turn.
https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1279145-hillary-clintons-what-happened-book
agip wrote:
should also point out that the generic ballot continues to blow out for the dems. Now 9.4%.
Hard to imagine this wave receding in the next 8 weeks. It's too late. National trends don't reverse themselves that quickly.
UNless there is a major terror attack or war or something.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/
Trump and many republicans are praying for Russia intereference and many would prefer a life-destroying event such as a terror attack than for Dems to gain any ground in the mid-terms. That’s how strong Gary’s hate is.
Fat hurts wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Ted Cruz might not even win reelection to the Senate. He's in an ever tightening race.
.... and the rest of you made that point quite well. That's what I get for responding before reading the rest of the posts.
So here is something new to think about, though I did say something about it in passing a couple of weeks ago.
According to 538, the R's have a 1 in 4 chance of holding the house. That's a pretty good shot.
If Republicans are still in control of the house next year, there will be no stopping the Trump train. It's game over.
The two factors are: 1) how much lower can Trump and his GOP minions stoop; and 2) how much lower can the republican voter stoop. The answer for both is much lower so until we see some hard election results favor Dems I’m not holding my breath for 2020.
PIO! wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
On a separate note - the way the country is reacting to McCain’s death is literally eating Trump alive. You’ve got people from all walks of life praising him. There is no way Trump hasn’t thought about the probable turnout for his own funeral and the public reaction. He must know it will be at best non-existent and more likely “good riddance”. He absolutely cannot stand it when reality pierces his little ego bubble. Reminds me of a colleague who is a member of a prestigious Westchester County country club. He said every now and then Trump’s driver would walk in and announce Trump was there if anyone wanted to play with him. You would rarely see it happen. He is a reject.
That is the cornerstone for the entire Trump phenomenon. Trumpettes - true Trumpettes like Lying Gary, Rigged, etc.) - are all losers who have felt disrespected their entire lives. Lying Gary literally reeks of this victimhood. Trump is a kindred spirit - never got the respect from "the elites" that he always thought he deserved and so badly craved. Hence the bottomless pit of hatred from Trump and the Trumpettes for scientists, the media, the "establishment", Hollywood . . .
No wonder Gary has referred to him as a savior and has mentioned many times that Trump has “shown them the way”. Lots of weak-minded pu$$ies looking for a scapegoat.
Fat hurts wrote:
Monkeys typing wrote:
I don't see Pence getting the party nomination unopposed and I don't see him winning the nomination if it's competitive.
Ted Cruz would be more likely if Trump implodes before 2020.
Ted Cruz might not even win reelection to the Senate. He's in an ever tightening race.
He might not, but if such a high profile Republican can't win statewide in Texas, it hardly matters who they have on the presidential ticket in 2020.
The real point is that I don't see Pence having a broad enough of a base to win nationally even without the baggage he'd have if Trump goes down.
Canadian Cruz wrote:
Canadian Cruz wrote:
Gosh I AM SO miserable to live with.
^ Yup.
I agree with myself.
Schooled at the funeral. Hope the golf was worth it. Ivanka's a class act.
schooly d wrote:
Schooled at the funeral. Hope the golf was worth it. Ivanka's a class act.
Truth be told, I'm jealous of Trump and I've been told I'm mental. Hell, Obama golfed all the time and he lied on so many campaign promises I'm embarrassed I voted for him!
But truth be told, Donald Trump is not going down.
Look what HRC got away with, what a joke!
We have to be honest fellow liberals, we want free programs and undocumented people coming in from other countries where terrorism exists.
I want them in regardless as I want a new USA that is full of anarchy and madness so that we'll never get peaceful times again.
I know it will turn into what the Middle East is now, but turmoil is what we really want, so let's not fool ourselves. Hell, look at London and Paris as examples, that's really what we all want. Germany is no longer Germany and never will be again.
I guess we aren't so smart after all since we can't see the forrest for the trees.
schooly d wrote:
Hell, Obama golfed all the time . . .
The following stats are from
https://trumpgolfcount.com/Trump has visited his clubs once every this many days since his inauguration: 4.2
Cost to Taxpayer: About $77,000,000
Projected visits to golf clubs in four years: 346
Projected visits in eight years: 693
.
Total times Obama played golf during his eight year Presidency: 306
.
And yes, I realize that schooly d was probably trolling. Well played.