Thisthreadisridiculous wrote:
Flagpole I think you are overreacting. They may get something small but unlikely the REALLY REALLY REALLY big stuff you are looking for. Tweets are interesting because it suggests two things, either they are tieing it in to what they have or they have no to very little evidence and they need to pin something on the President to satisfy dems. Flagpole I think you are very smart but you’re way too emotionally attached to the subject which suggests to me you are reaching. Love the passion though we disagree.
I still think the better route for Democrats is to offer a solution or run a campaign designated to beat Trump and the Republicans in the next election cycle. Running on impeachment (which is horrible for the country) and identity politics will get them burned once again.
We will see. I don't let emotion drive my thinking or actions, only logic and facts. By the way, I am not looking for anything. I SEE what is coming. I could look away and still see it, because it is so obvious.
Do you mean running on impeachment is horrible for the country or the impeachment itself is horrible for the country? If the latter, I completely disagree. Trump is showing more and more every day that he's a cancer in the White House, a cancer to America, and he needs to be removed from office as soon as possible. He told his followers not to believe what they read or hear. Nice. Only believe what Trump tells them, eh? Orwellian. He calls the press the "enemy of the people". That is so backwards. That's what dictators call the press.
I don't believe the Mueller investigation is political in any way. They are Department of Justice people doing their jobs, and they aren't going after any type of information to "pin something on the President to satisfy dems."
Seems incredibly logical to me that Obstruction of Justice has been committed. Firing Comey and then admitting why he did it is enough right there. Had he not admitted why he did it, he might have an argument, but he did; flat out said on camera he did it because of the Russia investigation, and then he told Russians he had in the Oval Office that the pressure was off. Writing the misleading (lie) memo about the Trump Tower meeting being about adoptions is also Obstruction of Justice. His pattern of meeting with Intelligence Agency heads and Federal prosecutors to try to gain their loyalty is also evidence of Obstruction of Justice. There will be more things that are used to solidify that charge.
Money laundering is mostly (but not just) a side issue here, and it will be proven. Just no reason for Mueller to have such money laundering experts on his team if not looking for that against Trump. Yes Manafort and Gates are guilty of that, but Trump is also as has been rumored for years. Clear as day for those of us who have educated ourselves on that matter. The big thing will be them tying the money laundering to Russia in the form of bank loans, deals with oligarchs, etc. That will happen...there will be Russian connections, perhaps even to the Kremlin.
Conspiracy with Russia to commit fraud on the United States (or whatever it ends up being) is a done deal now. Cohen has said Trump knew of the subject of the Trump Tower meeting before it happened and that several were in the room when Cohen was also there who know it to be true. Corroboration under threat of legal exposure is very likely here. Mueller already very likely has proof of this. This has a long reach involving WikiLeaks, Roger Stone, Rob Goldstone, members of the Trump family including Trump himself and others.
Mueller will get him on all of the above and then some.
The Southern District of New York will get him on FELONY Campaign Finance Law violation, Bank Fraud and/or Wire Fraud or conspiracy to commit.
Democrats still need to run successful campaigns against Trump or whomever is in his place by then, and this is why Pelosi hasn't jumped on the Impeach bandwagon yet. She is smart to have not done so just yet. When the Mueller report comes out, there won't be a choice. We can't have a traitor in the White House, and the report will show that Trump is one.
Mueller is coming...methodically, legally, ethically, professionally, and without emotion.
The clown is done.