Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Trollminator wrote:

Trump Surrenders wrote:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/06/20/trump-and-kirstjen-nielsens-embarrassing-surrender-on-separating-families/

No wonder he can't stand the media, "all those losers trying to keep me in check and undermining my authority". Total surrender - this one blew up in his face, had to walk it back and got nothing in return.

You don't know what happened here. It isn't done yet. "Zero tolerance" hasn't been ended, and his authority hasn't been undermined. It's almost sure to go to court and I feel sorry for the hand-picked Liberal judge who has to rule on it. Either way they rule it isn't good for Libs. I'm sure it looks like a victory in the Rat Maze, but then in the Rat Maze it still looks like Hillary won.

One thing he'll learn from this is that backing down will get him no relief from criticism, and that's good because we don't want him to make a habit of bowing to rabid haters. He's doing the right thing, gut the courts may reverse, getting him off the hook.

DiscoGary wrote:

You are arguing for...lawlessness.

That's rich. You support the most lawless president BY FAR. He WILL get his comeuppance.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

remember boys, we have learned that Gary thinks Germany jails asylum seekers and the Dems are for open borders.

take that into consideration whenever he claims things.

front and center wrote:

C'mon Y'all! wrote:

"The brainchild of" and "front and center for" are two entirely different things.

Watch and learn, my friend.

The only one who used "front and center" is you in your reply. Learn to read, comrade.

Ummm . . . pretty sure that wasn't the first time it was used.

What was that? Oh yeah, learn to read, comrade.

Do you guys realize that Dems, who are constantly accusing Trump of being a dictator, refused to use the normal legislative channels to fix a problem that Trump was willing to fix, and by doing so forced Trump to behave like a dictator to over-ride a law Dems passed, just so they could score cheap political points?

That's what just happened.

agip wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Huh? Trump is the ONLY person fighting against wide open borders. Take a peek out of the Rat Maze every once in a while.

such lies

no one deported more people than obama

border security was tightened very strongly during the obama years

unbelievable that you are so misinformed. How do you get your news exactly? Here's a tip: When you have a strong opinion like believing dems are for open borders or that obama didn't care about illegal immigration, poke around with

www.google.com

. It's a 'search engine' that can bring to you all kinds of information that might debunk your views.

Cause you want to know the truth, right? Right?

Trumpers don't get they are being suckered. This immigration "effort" by Trump is an appeasement mechanism. If he was serious about tackling immigration, he would have started with the 11 million currently in the country, not the few thousand per year. If he's so dedicated to following the law, why doesn't he get his monkey congress to pass a giant spending bill to escort all those law breakers out of the country? He's got nothing, this was a complete dud move that backfired hard. Separating children was an easy and harsh tactic to "prove" to his base of idiots that he's got a handle on it. He actually didn't even have to go this far, he had you all at "build the wall", which we all know is never going to happen. Besides, Trump loves illegal immigrants, they have worked for him for decades.

DiscoGary wrote:

One thing he'll learn from this is that backing down will get him no relief from criticism, and that's good because we don't want him to make a habit of bowing to rabid haters. He's doing the right thing, gut the courts may reverse, getting him off the hook.

I will say that one thing Trump is right on (sort of, hard to interpret what he actually says) is that we need a comprehensive immigration reform passed in Congress. This whole debacle just shows how messed up our system is and at the risk of pointing out the obvious, we need a legislative action.

It won't happen because LOL Congress but we need it.

agip wrote:

remember boys, we have learned that Gary thinks Germany jails asylum seekers and the Dems are for open borders.

take that into consideration whenever he claims things.

Over 80% of asylum seekers trying to come into this country are frauds. Maybe Germany has open borders like the US. Based on the immigration disaster they have there I would believe it.

Dems are for open borders. eReps are for open borders as well. Both fight any attempts to secure the borders.

DiscoGary wrote:

Do you guys realize that Dems, who are constantly accusing Trump of being a dictator, refused to use the normal legislative channels to fix a problem that Trump was willing to fix, and by doing so forced Trump to behave like a dictator to over-ride a law Dems passed, just so they could score cheap political points?

That's what just happened.

Oh I get it, so now Trump is the victim????? Right, the guy who decided to suddenly change enforcement and separate thousands of children from their parents is the victim because we forced him to behave like a dictator????

So I guess you forced Obama to pass those executive orders because he couldn't get it done through normal channels right... I should have thought of blaming you and calling him a victim back then, genius!

On a serious note, that kind of thinking is just bizarre and dangerous. I'm starting to imagine "us" putting him in a situation where he is "forced" to create a humanitarian catastrophe, even though he controls the government and the Deep State. This is the level of twisted justification you trumpers have gotten into. Now I ma starting to understand why you all have been ok with the separations. He is a powerless victim!

That answers my question. You do not realize what just happened here. That's always the problem because it makes it impossible for you to understand what will happen in the future. I watch, I learn, I grow. You walk through life in a cloud of ignorance occasionally banging your head into reality and wondering what hit you. To each his own.

DiscoGary wrote:

agip wrote:

remember boys, we have learned that Gary thinks Germany jails asylum seekers and the Dems are for open borders.

take that into consideration whenever he claims things.

Over 80% of asylum seekers trying to come into this country are frauds. Maybe Germany has open borders like the US. Based on the immigration disaster they have there I would believe it.

Dems are for open borders. eReps are for open borders as well. Both fight any attempts to secure the borders.

The border issue is immaterial compared to fixing the status of 11 million undocumented people, which until Trump came along was also not top of the agenda compared to other more pressing and threatening matters. The low annual migrant flow is simply not that big of an issue, especially for our melting pot nation which has always benefitted greatly from immigration. This is just the issue Trump happened to give you all to latch onto. If he was serious about immigration reform, he would have been dealing with the 11 million, but there has been no mention of that.

KidA wrote:

I miss Obama

You racist!

Clinton supporters, YOU, were suckered for years, as you were with Obummer. Silly little liberal you are;)

And in turn, that you are ignoring the fact that Trump is now the self proclaimed king of the US and that he owns his party which controls everything answers my question. If Obama couldn't get much done through normal legislative channels while the Democrats ran the show do you actually believe for a second it would be possible for dems to bring any of their liberal solutions to the table and expect that anyone would even look at it? You may be watching but certainly not learning and growing. Trump shot himself on the foot with this one. The plan was to sneak this in, surpass Obama's record on sending people back to show he's done more and use it as leverage to try to build the wall. You know that, don't play dumb. He wrongfully assumed the tolerance would be high enough even when it came to the suffering of families. That was a gross miscalculation by the 3D marbles player - shocker.

agip wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Huh? Trump is the ONLY person fighting against wide open borders. Take a peek out of the Rat Maze every once in a while.

such lies

no one deported more people than obama

border security was tightened very strongly during the obama years

unbelievable that you are so misinformed. How do you get your news exactly? Here's a tip: When you have a strong opinion like believing dems are for open borders or that obama didn't care about illegal immigration, poke around with

www.google.com

. It's a 'search engine' that can bring to you all kinds of information that might debunk your views.

Cause you want to know the truth, right? Right?

And during Obama's last couple of years, there was a net outflow of undocumented people from the US. I'm not sure how that happens with "open borders".

And for the record you are right, there is plenty of hatred toward Trump and almost everything he does.. all fully justified and self-inflicted. If you don't think that division was his strategy from day 1, then you haven't been paying attention as much as you claim to be.

If you don't secure the border, then it makes no sense to deal with illegals already here, because you'll just have another million next year, so Trump's attempt to secure the border is the right priority.

This is what I would.

1. For now, status quo for the illegals already here. You live in the shadows and behave. You break the law, you get sent home. If you don't like it, you can leave at any time.

2. Build the wall, secure the border, tighten visa enforcement. Basically get illegal immigration down to a small number.

3. Wait 10 years.

4. If the borders are still secure, then work on granting amnesty to the illegals still here.

5. If at any point the border breaks down, then amnesty stops and you go back to step 1.

DiscoGary wrote:

2. Build the wall, secure the border, tighten visa enforcement.

Idiot. Explain how you will build a wall along the Rio Grande. That is the border along all of Texas.

Will you build down the middle of the river?

Will be build it on the USA side?

How will build it through private property?

What will you do about the wall where it has to cut right through parts of people's homes?

How will you address lose of American properties owners who currently have access to the river? Their new view would be of a 30 foot wall.

Trollminator wrote:

And for the record you are right, there is plenty of hatred toward Trump and almost everything he does.. all fully justified and self-inflicted. If you don't think that division was his strategy from day 1, then you haven't been paying attention as much as you claim to be.

Wrong. The hate was there before he showed up. Trust me, I know. Before the hate was aimed at Trump it was aimed at me. His strategy was to fight back against it. That's why he won. Without the hate from the left, Trump would have pulled