Flagpole wrote:
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1) No one is demonizing conservatives.
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Wow! Of all the things you've put on this board, that one snapped the needle off the WRONG meter.
Flagpole wrote:
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1) No one is demonizing conservatives.
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Wow! Of all the things you've put on this board, that one snapped the needle off the WRONG meter.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Here is some news that is sure to make liberal heads explode:
Axios research finds that Donald Trump has the highest "own party" approval rating (87%) than any president, with the exception of George W Bush, right after 9/11 when the country came together momentarily - Obama was at 79% in his party, at the same time of his presidency. These statistics measure presidents on their 500th day in office.
87% of an ever decreasing size party is not very much. That like claiming you won 87% of 20% of a bet. LOL.
emoluments clause wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
So, now Trump and his lawyers are floating...
Trump can pardon himself
Trump can't be subpoenaed
Trump can't obstruct justice
This also implies Trump is free to do anything he likes. The US Constitution does not apply to him.
That pesky emoluments clause is out the door. Accepting bribes is a-okay. Trump is free to make as many personal business deals using foreign bribe money or mob money as he likes.
Yep. Absolutely insane attitude. We did not elect a King or a dictator. He will be taken down. As ridiculous as it is, I still don't see him spending any time in jail due to combination of plea and likely pardon (I HOPE this is the only thing I will be wrong about as he deserves jail time), but he will be removed from office or resign.
Monkeys typing wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
. . . Once again I have been proven right, and I was right back when I got no help from any national conservative voices. I had to see that on my own. I escaped the Maze at a very early age. When do liberals apologize to me for getting that wrong? Where do I go to collect my Nobel Prize for political science?
The general pattern seems to be that you weave some theory supported by selected facts, ignore any contrary evidence, and then declare yourself victor. Thus you can expect to collect your Nobel Prize shortly after you've been made the sole member of the Nobel committee.
Maybe. But I am right, and you are wrong, and that's not an accident.
Back, decades ago, when I got things wrong I would reanalyze things and change my mind until I got it right. Now, I am rarely wrong. Liberals get things wrong every day and all they ever do is blame conservatives for their failures. They never change their minds or even consider the possibility that they are wrong. That's the general pattern I see.
Shoes on the other foot wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Trump made 36 promises about things he would do on his first day in office. He did two. The other 34 were broken promises.
So did Obama. I didn't see you complaining then. I guess it depends on your political party, eh?
I thought Trumpers hated everything Obama did. Absolutely hated. Evil Obama broke some campaign promises and that was cause to try to force him from office. But when Trump breaks promises, or rapes the Constitution of the USA, he is saint Trump--a God above the law.
The Fokus wrote:
blahgovich wrote:
....and Indies (who ALSO vote for president!) are highly motivated to come out to vote against Trumpists.
Yes we are.
There is a reason, I as an independent, always vote in a way that tries to prevent one party from winning all three branches of government. That means I often vote based on what polls indict are the trends. The reasons for voting the way I do should be obvious to people by now.
DiscoGary wrote:
Monkeys typing wrote:
The general pattern seems to be that you weave some theory supported by selected facts, ignore any contrary evidence, and then declare yourself victor. Thus you can expect to collect your Nobel Prize shortly after you've been made the sole member of the Nobel committee.
Maybe. But I am right, and you are wrong, and that's not an accident.
Back, decades ago, when I got things wrong I would reanalyze things and change my mind until I got it right. Now, I am rarely wrong. Liberals get things wrong every day and all they ever do is blame conservatives for their failures. They never change their minds or even consider the possibility that they are wrong. That's the general pattern I see.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
--- Mark Twain
DiscoGary wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
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1) No one is demonizing conservatives.
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Wow! Of all the things you've put on this board, that one snapped the needle off the WRONG meter.
You conveniently deleted the rest of my comment there. The demonizing is of TRUMP and his followers. Not even all of Fox News can kiss his butt anymore. If there were an old school GOP member in the White House, yes Democrats would disagree with many of that President's policies, but it wouldn't be anything like what we see with the criminal Trump.
And, conservatives have no leg to stand on as they have been demonizing liberals for decades now with Rush and Fox News with no equal counter.
Again for emphasis...TRUMP is the one being targeted. He has made his bed. This is all happening because his actions both recent and long ago. Someone as criminal as he is really should have thought twice about running for President. You should go embrace the old GOP. Find a smart conservative who can appeal to a wide audience and back that person. Trump is a serial liar and a crook. He will go down in flames.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Trump could forcible rape, and torture, a 13-year-old girl on national TV and, pretty much according to dotard Giuliani, not face any charges.
Flagpole wrote:
The lunacy and desperation of the Trump Administration. Uh oh...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/03/politics/rudy-giuliani-trump-shoot-comey-impeachment/index.html
Yeah, about that... wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
George HW Bush only had one term.
Take a little longer to read before you post, FP. GHWB's party had been in power for three terms.
Ah, the whiney cries of Trumpian desperation. . . . Trump is DONE!
So, Trump's/Flynn's lawyers have documents THEY did not provide to the FBI. Good to know.
flyswatter wrote:
The FBI's conspiratorial actions are being exposed in so many areas now, and are coming back to bite them in the aishe.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-lawyers-reveal-previously-unknown-evidence-in-michael-flynn-case
Oh, for those wondering when the last time I got something of substance wrong, it was fairly recent, but you were all too busy hating me to see it.
People used to say "We need a business man as President. Run the country like a business! That would work." And I would tell them that government is not a business, that the incentive structure is different so expecting a business man to be successful in that environment is foolish. If you put a business man in then you will be disappointed.
Well Trump has proven me wrong in spectacular fashion. I was 100% wrong on that.
Now what should I do? Should I change my mind and roll this new knowledge into my world view, or should I claim that liberals called me names, that I am a victim, that there's injustice everywhere, that I can't help it because of my skin color, that this simply can't be true and that we need a government program to make sure that no one ever again thinks that a business man would make a good President?
Well I've already changed my mind. I learned. I've grown, while you liberals sit there screaming at the walls because the world does not conform to your world view.
Next time I'll get it right, while liberals get it wrong, again.
DiscoGary wrote:
Oh, for those wondering when the last time I got something of substance wrong ...
The last time was what you typed after the ellipses.
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Douglas Blackmon explained why Trump’s declaration that he has the “absolute right” to pardon himself of crimes is setting up a fight that could end up giving America’s executive branch dictatorial powers.
I’ve written for more than a year that #RussiaGate would culminate in constitutional crisis over the president’s pardon power. Contrary to what @realDonaldTrump or any “experts” have said, the Founders and the Supreme Court have been clear for 230 years, no one is above the law.
— Douglas A. Blackmon (@douglasblackmon) June 4, 2018
2/ If the President can pardon himself, he can commit any federal crime without fear of prosecution. This would include bribing members of Congress not to support impeachment proceedings, paying off witnesses against him, ordering federal contracts awarded to his children.
— Douglas A. Blackmon (@douglasblackmon) June 4, 2018
3/ If the president can pardon himself AND issue pre-emptive pardons (as has also been asserted) then he can nullify any federal law by declaring in advance that any violator will be immune. He can obliterate the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, all workplace safety regs.
— Douglas A. Blackmon (@douglasblackmon) June 4, 2018
4/ In sum, if the president can pardon himself as he claims, we live in a country in which the president can declare himself a dictator.
That is not the United States of America.
— Douglas A. Blackmon (@douglasblackmon) June 4, 2018
https://mobile.twitter.com/douglasblackmon/status/1003630116570886144
dictator trump wrote:
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Douglas Blackmon explained why Trump’s declaration that he has the “absolute right” to pardon himself of crimes is setting up a fight that could end up giving America’s executive branch dictatorial powers.
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Nonsense. Impeachment is the way to get rid of a President, and we still have that. Trump is as far away from a dictator as you can get. There is absolutely no way Trump will become a dictator and anyone who says so is as wrong as they could possibly be. If Trump actually breaks a law or does anything corrupt, he will be immediately thrown out of office. The threshold for impeachment for Trump is lower than any President we've ever had. No President was watched more closely than Trump.
DiscoGary wrote:
dictator trump wrote:
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Douglas Blackmon explained why Trump’s declaration that he has the “absolute right” to pardon himself of crimes is setting up a fight that could end up giving America’s executive branch dictatorial powers.
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Nonsense. Impeachment is the way to get rid of a President, and we still have that. Trump is as far away from a dictator as you can get. There is absolutely no way Trump will become a dictator and anyone who says so is as wrong as they could possibly be. If Trump actually breaks a law or does anything corrupt, he will be immediately thrown out of office. The threshold for impeachment for Trump is lower than any President we've ever had. No President was watched more closely than Trump.
0/10. . . . Try again. Trump is laying the groundwork to void any impeachment because of "witch hunt." He must void it because only he can protect the USA from itself.
here is the next speaker of the house, should the GOP hold on to it. Or the next minority leader should they lose it.
he, in among the most cowardly responses ever recorded by a major American politician, refuses three times to admit that trump and the WH lie a lot.
you touch trump, this is what you get. you are lowered to defending liars. you compromise yourself and lower your ethics. good luck recovering from this.
you elected this creep.
NonsenseDisco wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
Nonsense. Impeachment is the way to get rid of a President, and we still have that. Trump is as far away from a dictator as you can get. There is absolutely no way Trump will become a dictator and anyone who says so is as wrong as they could possibly be. If Trump actually breaks a law or does anything corrupt, he will be immediately thrown out of office. The threshold for impeachment for Trump is lower than any President we've ever had. No President was watched more closely than Trump.
0/10. . . . Try again. Trump is laying the groundwork to void any impeachment because of "witch hunt." He must void it because only he can protect the USA from itself.
Nope. He's laying the groundwork to protect the people around him from the Deep State witch hunt. The Deep State is using every power they have to take him out, and he's using every power he has to fight back. Finally, someone is fighting back against our corrupt government. This is all good.
If Trump steps over the line, he'll get impeached no matter who he pardons, but right now it's Obama's corrupt Deep State that's on the defensive. This government coup is one of the biggest scandals in our history, and Trump must win to ensure we move in the right direction.
DiscoGary wrote: but you were all too busy hating me to see it.
Gary, without a hint of sarcasm, no reasonable person "hates" you personally for your political views. I certainly don't.
We disagree on political stuff. That's not the same thing as "hate." Not even close.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
DiscoGary wrote: but you were all too busy hating me to see it.
Gary, without a hint of sarcasm, no reasonable person "hates" you personally for your political views. I certainly don't.
We disagree on political stuff. That's not the same thing as "hate." Not even close.
Well that's a relief.
Substitute "screaming at the walls" for "hating me" then.