Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

AR -15 wrote:

I'm not Gary.

OK, Lying Gary.

I disagree and will still declare that I was right about the 2016 election if conspiracy with Russia to help him win is proven either directly by him or with his campaign; can't be by some random person not connected to his campaign. I said this before the election. The campaign takes orders from the top, and the top is Trump. I have not expanded my position at all...it is the same position I have had since before the election. I also said that if aliens came down here and made us all vote for Trump that that wouldn't mean I was wrong about the 2016 election.

Flagpole, you are literally the definition of a privileged American living in a bubble. I mean that in all seriousness. You literally are wrong on everything. Expand your horizons. There was no Trump collusion, just because CNN says there is. Trump is being demonized because he was threatening to shake up the establishment (which he is doing). The people who still believe what you believe constituted mostly of old white Americans who were raised in a privileged society and allowed the United States to rape the globe of its resources and violate human rights while they sat at home watching cable news saying that the Iraq War was the right thing.

I won't get into an argument with you because you simply refuse to accept alternate viewpoints. I will, however, give you a taste of your own medicine:

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/university-studies-show-odds-hillary-winning-primaries-fraud-1-77-billion/

^^very important that you understand this

The only collusion was the DNC to take down Bernie Sanders so that their establishment puppet Clinton would be free to implement MORE laws that imprison minorities (yes, she has done this in the past, look it up), sell more weapons to totalitarian governments such as Saudi Arabia and expand the Imperialist American Empire.

Lastly, look up Seth Rich and the Clinton Body Count.

Not everything is as it seems. I was once a Hillary supporter until I started reading outside of mainstream American news. One of my main sources that I suggest that you listen to is Ajamu Baraka.

If you are as open-minded as you claim you will look into these things and report back. Feel free to give us some things to look into so this isn't wholly one-sided.

MTWGA. Make the world great again. Not just America

You are incorrect about me.

1) I was born into poverty, so not privilege.

2) Any collusion with Hillary and the DNC is a separate matter. Doesn't matter if Hillary was a cannibal. That doesn't make Trump's actions correct. Trump is the president, so he is the target. I would do the same thing to Hillary if she were doing what Trump is doing. My allegiance is to truth and justice, not any party or candidate. Also, you bringing up the world's ills is deflection. That there are bad things in the world doesn't make Trump's actions not bad. You need to stop defending a criminal.

3) Regarding Seth Rich, you are perpetuating a falsehood that has long been debunked.

4) You think I am against Trump and saying that he will be found guilty of crime because I am a Hillary supporter? Hardly. This has nothing to do with Hillary...only the rule of law and our nation's national security.

5) Dude, what is wrong is wrong...there is no other side. Donald Trump is a criminal, he will be found as such, and the level of criminal that he is makes him unfit to be President.

Of course I will not accept your warped viewpoint. You are flat wrong.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

L L wrote:

Hhjj wrote:

Who am I? Flagpole? LL? IdiotTrollminator (could be;), or 1 of any other delusional liberal wanting free stuff from the Government.

I don't know your situation but I know I pay more taxes than the majority of Trump supporters and Republicans in general.

Super Republican Scott Pruitt is the one that wants free stuff from the government.

http://time.com/money/5230681/scott-pruitt-controversial-spending/

You're poor or you're a liar, which is it? I'm middle class. My deductible is $5000 from $1500. This happened under Obama and his Obamascare program, not Trump. Care to call me out? I'll bet you the farm that I'm telling the truth, will you? That's what I thought, another democrat know-it-all. What I say is right, but what you say is wrong.

LL, you have my pity.

Now is the part where you insert crickets, lots of them.

Cruszenar wrote:

L L wrote:

I don't know your situation but I know I pay more taxes than the majority of Trump supporters and Republicans in general.

Super Republican Scott Pruitt is the one that wants free stuff from the government.

http://time.com/money/5230681/scott-pruitt-controversial-spending/

You're poor or you're a liar, which is it? I'm middle class. My deductible is $5000 from $1500. This happened under Obama and his Obamascare program, not Trump. Care to call me out? I'll bet you the farm that I'm telling the truth, will you? That's what I thought, another democrat know-it-all. What I say is right, but what you say is wrong.

LL, you have my pity.

Now is the part where you insert crickets, lots of them.

So . . . your deductible going up shows that LL does not "pay more taxes than the majority of Trump supporters and Republicans in general" ???

Or maybe your deductible shows that Scott Pruitt does not want free stuff from the government?

Okaayyyyyyyyy . . .

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Sometimes I have to wonder if some of the Trumpettes posting here are even conscious.

Cruszenar wrote:

My deductible is $5000 from $1500. This happened under Obama and his Obamascare program, not Trump. Care to call me out?

I don't know about calling you out, but your claim does need qualification.

What plan were you on before Obamacare?

What plan are you on now?

Do the two plans provide the exact same level of care?

How do you know that the change in your deductible is directly due to the ACA (Obamacare) law?

The Gallant Pig Man wrote:

You've omitted the most likely scenario: Trump is proven to be a criminal but will only be held accountable if Democrats manage to make significant gains in 2018. I still don't understand why you believe Republicans will be forced to vote him out rather than circle the wagons. There's really not much evidence that they possess the capacity for shame anymore. Whatever Mueller comes forward with, it will be cast as partisan, Deep State lies. They'll all play along.

I agree that this is the most likely scenario.

A NYTimes op-ed made the point recently (today?): Americans abhor impeachment. If Andrew Johnson didn't get booted, I seriously doubt that DJT would be. Even Richard Nixon *might* have been convicted--and might not have. The bar for conviction (2/3 of those present in the Senate) is intentionally very, very high.

And I think GPM is correct in his assessment of the current GOP. The party's Senators--with potential exceptions that you could count on your thumbs--would not vote to convict Trump on *any* of the possible charges that are currently being bruited about. So to successfully impeach-and-convict the President before 2021, that would mean the Democrats would have to win a massive number of Senate seats this fall. In fact it is more likely that they will lose a seat or three.

Like I said, Hannity is a hypocrite:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/23/opinions/sean-hannity-is-a-welfare-queen-begala/index.html

Basically accepting welfare. He's on the government dole. Nice.

Nixon was told by Republicans in the Senate that they had the votes to convict and oust him. He would have been convicted for sure.

I think you both are underestimating even partisan GOPers who would really have no choice but to vote to impeach and convict a President found conspiring with another country to win the election. The fraud, the crimes, the threat to our nation's security and election sovereignty; it will be enough, and frankly, it should be...more than enough even.

First, the 2016 election was already shown to be the target of Russian state level interference. Second, there's a bunch of people (Gates, Manafort, Flynn) that have had criminal charges brought against them. This seems like it would satisfy your conditions. Nevertheless, the Official LRC Race for Admiration or Humiliation of Flagpole remains concerned only with

1) Mueller coming;

2) The clown being done.

As such, we reinforce our rejection of your submission of "2016 election conspiracy bragging rights" as it seems obvious, and write it off as simple grandstanding until you can show otherwise

The Republican Party was a real political party and Republicans for the most part cared about truth when Nixon was POTUS.

Good evening! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine PM?

1) We do not have verified collusion (conspiracy) yet, so all the stuff you have said doesn't apply here at all. My conditions have not been met. We have to have verified collusion (conspiracy) as determined by law...found by Mueller or the DNC or Southern District of New York or any other body or person who files and suit and gets a conviction. Today, we still have Trumpers saying there is no evidence of collusion. I say there is. If some dude named Dale in Montana with no connection to the Trump campaign colluded with Russia, that would not make me correct about the 2016 election. If Trump or anyone on his campaign or advising him did, then I am right. Sorry, but I said this before the election even.

2) Mueller is coming...so are others.

3) The clown is done, and I will be proven right on all counts.

One is that Cohen would need to strike a deal with prosecutors to avoid charges or prison time. Trump's tweet did not even entertain the idea that the investigation will turn up nothing because Cohen committed no crimes. The second is that Cohen possesses damaging information about the president. Trump said he believes Cohen will keep his mouth shut, not that Cohen can talk all he wants because there is no dirt to dish.

All you Trump supporters who keep saying he is innocent are fools.

Good morning! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine AM?

Flagpole wrote:

I think you both are underestimating even partisan GOPers who would really have no choice but to vote to impeach and convict a President found conspiring with another country to win the election. The fraud, the crimes, the threat to our nation's security and election sovereignty; it will be enough, and frankly, it should be...more than enough even.

I'm not so sure about that. Trumpers live in Foxlandia where anything damaging about the president is believed to be Deep State propaganda.

You only need 34 senators to declare Trump innocent. It shouldn't be hard to find 34 that will go along.