Flagpole wrote:
GeeseGander wrote:
No, it's not indicative of such. We all thought the same thing with Clinton, and she skated after lying over and over under oath.
Flagpole is far from smart. He's just wants to rant and be heard, yet his substance is lacking. Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton, live with it. As dozens of others have said, he's been on here for how many months whining? Fall will come and he'll be saying Trump got off easy and should have been thrown out. Bookmark my post, I guarantee you he'll still be President. Next time put in a better candidate than Clinton, she lied more than Obama!
1) Which Clinton lied over and over under oath? Only Bill did that, and it wasn't really over and over. But he did do it. Hillary has not been charged with lying under oath at all, and despite what Trump says about her, she never lied to the FBI.
2) This has nothing to do with Trump beating Hillary. You can't cling to that now very suspect victory forever. This has to do with everything we have learned about Trump since he was elected. He fired Comey after he was elected. He has fired everyone and their brother since he was elected and either left those positions unfilled or filled them with increasingly incompetent people. He has lied to the American public and the world on a whole range of topics in a way that is unfathomable since he was elected. He has shown incompetence as a leader (why the hell is Ben Carson the head of HUD?). He has shown evidence of obstruction of justice, and that of course makes people wonder why. You don't obstruct justice if you are innocent.
3) First of all, I do not whine. I tell it like it is. You just don't like it because the facts are not as you wish them to be. Also, there is no point in mentioning how long I have been "whining". Investigations take time. The only relevance to the length of time is that it will show how long I knew what that outcome for Trump would be, and it will not end well for him.
4) You are incorrect that I will say Trump got off easy and that he should have been thrown out. You obviously do not understand how a person with integrity behaves. Unfortunately there aren't a lot of people out there to model that for you. Check it - If Mueller's team delivers information that does not lead to Trump's ouster in any way, then I will accept that finding. We are a Rule of Law nation, and I will respect and accept the findings.
5) I have never put a time frame on Mueller's investigation, so Trump could be re-elected in 2020 if Mueller is still working at that time, and that would not prove me wrong. I will only be wrong if Mueller wraps up his investigation and Trump is indeed NOT done at that point.
6) Hillary was a flawed candidate, I agree, but that has nothing to do with how horrible Trump is. How much she lied compared to Obama is also not relevant. Donald Trump is the Liar in Chief. It is not even close. That man lies on average 5.5 times a day publicly as has been shown by fact checkers. By comparison, Obama was found to lie 18 times in 8 years. Apples to very little oranges.
Your confidence in a man who is facing so many different ways to be unseated is odd. You should not believe the things the majority of the people on Fox News tell you. If you HAVE to watch Fox News, listen to Chris Wallace and Shep Smith...they provide some sun in that wool-over-the-eyes network.
You should know...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.