Thanks, Trump. Good for retired savers. Terrible for Trump's base--spend it alls.
Thanks, Trump. Good for retired savers. Terrible for Trump's base--spend it alls.
DiscoGary wrote:
come out of the maze of deception wrote:
I think I'll double down on this:
The purpose of this investigation is to punish Trump, his family, his friends, his supporters, and everyone associated with him so badly that NO ONE ever again tries to dethrone the Establishment in DC.
Oh you'll double down will you? Just like that. No pause for self-reflection? Just double down. No time to question your assumptions today? No, I think I'll just double down.
I've said a thing which may or may not be true and is impossible to substantiate so ... I'll just double down.
Good for you. You live your best life.
DiscoGary wrote:
I think I'll double down on this:
The purpose of this investigation is to punish Trump, his family, his friends, his supporters, and everyone associated with him so badly that NO ONE ever again tries to dethrone the Establishment in DC.
No person is above the law in a democracy. Trump is not above the law.
A democracy has an independent law enforcement process and an independent judicial process. Two things Trump is actively attempting to dismantle. If only Trump would stop acting guilty at every turn.
Since you haven't rubbed one out to Hillary in 10 minutes, the laws/policy she violated 100 years ago have no consequences. That's how smart people break the law. Trump is not smart.
If Trump is guilty of no criminal actions, then Mueller's investigation will show it to be true. That will be the end of the issue. So far, it's not looking good at all.
DiscoGary wrote:
come out of the maze of deception wrote:
I think I'll double down on this:
The purpose of this investigation is to punish Trump, his family, his friends, his supporters, and everyone associated with him so badly that NO ONE ever again tries to dethrone the Establishment in DC.
I'm curious. If something is found, how will you respond:
a) any evidence is fake and was simply planted (by the deep state of course)
b) Obama, Bill and Hillary have done much worse than Trump and therefore the law doesn't apply to him
c) Trump should keep his job anyway because he is M@GA
You can't argue with Gary because he lives in an alternate united states where liberals have somehow colluded with the most powerful people in the world to strip themselves of accountability and keep the sheep brainwashed. Using that logic, any conviction or evidence will not satisfy Gary because by default the investigation and any accusations against the can-do-no-wrong Orange One are void.
caped crusader wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Speaking of world views and perception, I'm going to do something I rarely ever do. I'm posting a link.
This doesn't directly implicate the Trump campaign, even though they did use Cambridge Analytica. I'm not even sure CA did anything illegal. But everyone should be aware of what CA did and how this works.
If you are on FaceBook you are being brainwashed. This ex-CA employee tells all about it.
Now I'm sure you are saying, "I'm too smart to fall for this. I can't be brainwashed."
You are WRONG.
If it didn't work they wouldn't do it. And undoubtedly, Cambridge Analytica is not the only one targeting your psyche.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXdYSQ6nu-MDude, I'm liberal and all but this is to be taken with a massive pinch of salt.
It has nothing to do with liberal or conservative. This is where data analytics meets modern psychology. It's actually a growing field of study.
It's no secret that game developers and social platforms are using these techniques to keep you staring at their apps. It comes as no surprise that the same kinds of techniques can be used to influence political opinions and drive voter turnout.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
jamin wrote:
It's 2+ years after the peak of the last presidential election and there's still an obsession with trying to prove that Trump used unusually dirty tactics to win.
The beauty of an investigation like Mueller is leading is, like the Clinton Whitewater investigation, it's the OTHER stuff that will end up finally seeing the light of day. That's going to be much more interesting and very likely lead directly to money laundering.
Except for with Clinton they never found anything illegal that he did, despite spending 7 years and 50 million tax payer $'s (more in today's $'s), *until* they had fully given up on finding him guilty of whitewater-related or other charges, but then decided to "investigate" him for messing around with an intern. (and then they got him for lying, about something he should never have been asked).
And while nothing that Trump has done has been proven illegal, yet, the investigation has been much shorter, and they have already uncovered illegal activities by MANY Trump associates/underlings and by a foreign power.
So this special counsel investigation has already proven to be much more worth the effort and much more fruitful than the much, much longer Ken Starr one. And whatever is found on Trump, whether directly related to the Russian probe or not, will be sweet poetic justice against Republicans after their Clinton obsession/overreach in the 90's. Ken Starr's investigation WAS a witch hunt in the end. Mueller's is not.
DiscoGary wrote:
come out of the maze of deception wrote:
I think I'll double down on this:
The purpose of this investigation is to punish Trump, his family, his friends, his supporters, and everyone associated with him so badly that NO ONE ever again tries to dethrone the Establishment in DC.
You also doubled down on having nothing to support your argument.
There is one thing you are sort of right about though. There are some innocent Trump associates who are caught up in the investigation. They are forced to hire attorneys to protect themselves as they cooperate with the Mueller.
I do think that's unfair. But life is unfair. Those people should have heeded their mother's advice to stay away from shady characters like the godless Trump.
Fat hurts wrote:
caped crusader wrote:
Dude, I'm liberal and all but this is to be taken with a massive pinch of salt.
It has nothing to do with liberal or conservative. This is where data analytics meets modern psychology. It's actually a growing field of study.
It's no secret that game developers and social platforms are using these techniques to keep you staring at their apps. It comes as no surprise that the same kinds of techniques can be used to influence political opinions and drive voter turnout.
Unfortunately uneducated mouth breathers are probably more susceptible to falling for such tactics.
Just a quick reminder on how far back Flagpole's "being wrong" streak has been. This is from August 10, 2016. This wasn't the start, but a fine example of the root of his behavior.
1-2% with minorities, huh? Flagpole BELIEVED. (>>He won 30% Hispanics, 13% black men.)
Poorly with women, huh? Flagpole BELIEVED. (>>He won white women.)
Fewer white college-educated men, huh? Flagpole BELIEVED. (>>He won whites with a college degree, especially men.)
The problem seems to be that he BELIEVES what the media tells him. He's unable to decipher real news and fake news.
Fat hurts wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
The purpose of this investigation is to punish Trump, his family, his friends, his supporters, and everyone associated with him so badly that NO ONE ever again tries to dethrone the Establishment in DC.
You also doubled down on having nothing to support your argument.
He did more that double down. He also wants Trump to "dethrone" the Establishment, and enthrone the Trump family as for life rulers of the US. Trump Jr, then Little Barron, and them the grandsons, and so on, the Trump family will run the US and likely rebrand the nation as Trump.
L L wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
... and we've investigated Trump's involvement and found nothing.
Do you remember the Hillary investigations about Benghazi?
It went on for a long time and Hillary testified for hours?
Then they found nothing.
How about we get Trump's testimony under oath, as he promised, before we wrap this up.
But besides Trump's possible involvement, this current investigation involves other people and entities.
So that has to continue until it's collusion, I mean conclusion even if there is no Trump involvement.
You have to agree on that.
WHAT? They found more than nothing, but she got a free ride. Where in God's name do you get your ideology from, a cracker jacks box?
Yeah we all know you are hung up on the past. But I get it, Trump winning is your one little keepsake of happiness in life, so why ruin it by talking about the present.
Rigged for Trump. wrote:
Hi mal-mo. We know it's you.
Putin had someone poisoned on the streets of the UK last week and Trump called to congratulate him on his election "win" against the advice of his own staff (which was accomplished by widespread ballot stuffing).
If it is, then it doesn't change the fact that George is a hell of a lot smarter than you! You've got no brain, give up.
Trollminator wrote:
Don't believe them wrote:
Just a quick reminder on how far back Flagpole's "being wrong" streak has been. This is from August 10, 2016. This wasn't the start, but a fine example of the root of his behavior.
1-2% with minorities, huh? Flagpole BELIEVED. (>>He won 30% Hispanics, 13% black men.)
Poorly with women, huh? Flagpole BELIEVED. (>>He won white women.)
Fewer white college-educated men, huh? Flagpole BELIEVED. (>>He won whites with a college degree, especially men.)
The problem seems to be that he BELIEVES what the media tells him. He's unable to decipher real news and fake news.
Yeah we all know you are hung up on the past. But I get it, Trump winning is your one little keepsake of happiness in life, so why ruin it by talking about the present.
Ha! You've loved the lies of the past you silly simpleton, now you've got to deal with the best choice of 3, Trump. Your sad little girl really let you down hard with the loss, but oh well;) As others have so aptly pointed out, Trollminator gets stupidest poster on this thread, hands down.
Prize in Side wrote:
L L wrote:
Do you remember the Hillary investigations about Benghazi?
It went on for a long time and Hillary testified for hours?
Then they found nothing.
How about we get Trump's testimony under oath, as he promised, before we wrap this up.
But besides Trump's possible involvement, this current investigation involves other people and entities.
So that has to continue until it's collusion, I mean conclusion even if there is no Trump involvement.
You have to agree on that.
WHAT? They found more than nothing, but she got a free ride. Where in God's name do you get your ideology from, a cracker jacks box?
I believe we all watched the same 100 hearings and read the same 100 conclusions; result = millions spent and nada. And believe me, the republicans tried every single little angle to find something. But go ahead Gary, explain to us how the deep state gave her this free ride.
Trollminator wrote:
Don't believe them wrote:
Just a quick reminder on how far back Flagpole's "being wrong" streak has been. This is from August 10, 2016. This wasn't the start, but a fine example of the root of his behavior.
1-2% with minorities, huh? Flagpole BELIEVED. (>>He won 30% Hispanics, 13% black men.)
Poorly with women, huh? Flagpole BELIEVED. (>>He won white women.)
Fewer white college-educated men, huh? Flagpole BELIEVED. (>>He won whites with a college degree, especially men.)
The problem seems to be that he BELIEVES what the media tells him. He's unable to decipher real news and fake news.
Yeah we all know you are hung up on the past. But I get it, Trump winning is your one little keepsake of happiness in life, so why ruin it by talking about the present.
Oh, oh, you want to talk about the present? Oh, ok...
Under POTUS45, ISIS has been decimated (as he said it would).
Under POTUS45, illegal border crossings and arrests are WAY down (as he said they'd be).
Under POTUS45, the maniacal leader of North Korea is feeling boxed in and will have talks with SK and POTUS.
Under POTUS45, the economy has gotten even stronger (despite horror stories by the Left on Nov 9, 2016).
Under POTUS45, consumer confidence is at the highest levels in 25 years.
Under POTUS45, business leaders have given massive amounts of money back to their workers.
Under POTUS45, the most significant tax breaks in 25 years have been implemented (and giving consumers more money in their pockets).
Under POTUS45, the Republicans were called out on their commitment to the NRA on national television (should result in SOMETHING significant passed compared to past efforts).
Under POTUS45, there will be (hopefully) a massive infrastructure bill passed that both sides of the aisle can support.
Under POTUS45, the SCOTUS now sits 5-4 (it will soon be 6-3, and quite possibly 7-2).
Under POTUS45, the media has continued to lose its mind.
That's a pretty solid list off the top of my head.
This is all taking over when things were going pretty well, which is NOT when you want to take over from a political standpoint. Much easier to take over during a crisis so you can claim to have "saved" this or that.
My gawd, get over it. MANY, MANY people, including those paid the big bucks to get it right, got the 2016 election wrong. Heck, by all reports from the Trump camp, Trump himself thought he was going to lose.
But this is all you've got when responding to Flagpole. You can't make a reasonable defense of Trump, so you go back to an election almost a year and a half ago that Flagpole wrongly predicted. Wow, good for you.
I'll let you in on a not so little secret... Mueller doesn't care about the outcome of the 2016 election. He cares about the rule of law. Trump is f*cked.
A mass purging is going on. Why?
nontrumper wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
I think I'll double down on this:
The purpose of this investigation is to punish Trump, his family, his friends, his supporters, and everyone associated with him so badly that NO ONE ever again tries to dethrone the Establishment in DC.
And I'll double down on this: you're a lunatic.
Hey! Watch your language! That's my idol that you are talking to!
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year