seriously - WHAT are the decent career paths these days?

grrrr44 wrote:

Plus, my first 4 years as a teacher, I was doing lesson plans in the summer.

And, you have that great side benefit of parents complaining if you discipline their kid, or even better when a teenage girl says you touched her, just because she got a C on a test.

My mom was a high school english teacher. She was grading papers at 5am and in the classroom at 7am. She was with students after 3pm and sometimes parents and was usually home around 5-6 pm. She made us supper and was grading papers again around 8pm and definitely to bed by 10pm to wake up very early again. She used the weekend to develop the lesson plan for the next week (and had been teaching 30 years when I was in high school so was an old pro at that). She used the weekend (both sat and sun) to catch up on grading papers and tests and create the lesson plan for the next week. She did what she needed to be highly successful and positively impact many lives. She had summer off but was it worth it. My mom put in over 30 years enough to receive full retirement benefits but she did not have the weekends off like most people.

hey!

thnx a lot for feedback!

well i am from sweden so i was curious to find out how the bizz looks "over there"...

there are Always Changes i guess and adaptation is key i assume, in work as well as in running....

respondingtotrolls wrote:

Plumber/electrician/HVAC guy. Make serious bank. Job can't be sent overseas.

Right you are, sonny.

As for following you interests, not such a great idea. I was a journalist for a long time and got downsized, laid off twice and finally unable to get something with decent pay. Internet, and yes a focus on celebrity and fake news is what's become of it along with colleges continuing to pump out 10s of thousands with journalism degrees into a shrinking job market.

Civil Engineering -- the pay's not stellar, but with the right specialization and/or consulting you can make good money. It's protected by licensing requirements, hard to outsource, and won't be automated.

I'm a mechanical engineer and would say that's a pretty good field, too. The money's nothing special compared to medicine or finance, but most only work 40-50 hours a week and there's no six figure school debt.

am a physician. Anesthesia. Make 350k. Not particularly thrilled with it. Hours suck. 90% boredom, 10% panic.

Go for sales. Have two in laws in sales. Both make six figures, work mostly from home. Probably 25 hours a week. Very flexible. Very happy, home with their kids a lot.

Only downside is need to have people skills to be good. But not hard to break into the industry. $hit will always need to be sold.

OliverB wrote:

hey!

thnx a lot for feedback!

well i am from sweden so i was curious to find out how the bizz looks "over there"...

there are Always Changes i guess and adaptation is key i assume, in work as well as in running....

Yeah, I think the state of the business is similar in Europe and the US. In this industry, one definitely needs to stay flexible and be on the look-out for new growth/learning opportunities. There are some companies that should be stable for some time over here (Regeneron), but others will continue to contract (Pfizer, BMS). One career area I forgot to mention was biologics, seems like there are lots of opportunities there (and the lab skills translate to brewing beer!).

Hope the running in Sweden is going well. I'm recovering from a pinched nerve. Should be running soon though.

wahahhaah wrote:

software guy wrote:

As a graduating CS major I'm not feeling bad about knowing I have a 6 figure job lined up after graduation. CS internships can also pay quite well ($7+k/mo or $30+/h).

good gracious, where are you going to work? I'm a freshman and still trying to pick a major

Note that the pay "software guy" cites are only at TOP companies in expensive cities. That's not normal internship pay for 95%+ of CS students. Normal internship pay that most CS people could except would be $15-$25/hour. Still extremely good! I did one internship in Boston for $20/hr and was very happy about that, while a friend of mine got an internship at the same time at a top Boston-based company and he was getting $25/hr. Now yes of course if you intern at google, facebook, etc sure they pay interns a good bit more than most companies pay new CS grads for full-time work even in the same expensive cities.

Ghrelin wrote:

Civil Engineering -- the pay's not stellar, but with the right specialization and/or consulting you can make good money. It's protected by licensing requirements, hard to outsource, and won't be automated.

I'm a mechanical engineer....

Agree with Gherlin, from this perspective-- a nephew was encouraged/wanted to become an engineer. It didn't work, but, through a summer job on an urban-county street-paving crew, he discovered public works.

He switched colleges and re-tooled... he was able to intern for a midwestern metro suburb, doing CAD plans/blueprints and doing the on-site stuff during street-sidewalk-sewer replacement. That city very much wants to hire him full-time upon graduation, but there might be similar better offers awaiting.

With us aging boomers retiring, replacements will be needed to design, build, and operate public works at all skill levels. Pay and benefits might not match the past golden age of public employment in the US, but it's needed work.

Maybe you are right. But if the person is good in pharma then he or she can write different essays with pharma topic. It's currently perspective I think. Here is an article https://essay4today.com/blog/what-influences-your-career-choice about career choice and there I've found the information about the professional writer and what factors can impact to choosing this occupation. What do you think about it?

Anything that requires hard core science and math that doesn't involve teaching.

Gramps wrote:

respondingtotrolls wrote:

Plumber/electrician/HVAC guy. Make serious bank. Job can't be sent overseas.

Right you are, sonny.

As for following you interests, not such a great idea. I was a journalist for a long time and got downsized, laid off twice and finally unable to get something with decent pay. Internet, and yes a focus on celebrity and fake news is what's become of it along with colleges continuing to pump out 10s of thousands with journalism degrees into a shrinking job market.

Average pay for plumbers and the trades is crap. Google it. You can make good money by running you own trade company. But that is being a business person as much as a trade one

Become a social justice warrior / community activist. You really don't need an education, but you need to be able to play the victim card well. The SJW "victims" that accosted Flake in the elevator during the Kavanaugh hearings are pulling down close to $200k a year from their Soros funded NPOs.

Doctors and people who work in the medical industry are always on demand on the market. However, the path to become a doctor, no matter in which field, will take half of your life. This is the reason why many give on the half of the path. Indeed to study intensively for about 10-12 years requires a lot of motivation and patience. However, many courses are shorter and faster. For instance, find the shorter course of how to become a paramedic on https://www.vocationaltraininghq.com/how-to-become/emt-paramedic/.

Don’t go into Physical Therapy

Not sure why it’s always listed as a hot job.

Nurses make more $$ than PTs.

Pain in the a$$ patients all day who are too fat to move,packed schedule where you never get mandated breaks, and high burnout rate. Not to mention mountains of debt to make under six figures. Only part time moms should do it if they aren’t the primary breadwinner.