rojo wrote:
history teacher wrote:Ever heard of Mary Decker?
For her entire career, Decker's PRs were only 3:57.12 and 15:06. Muir has already crushed both of those. Decker ran in an era when it was WAY easier to be a star (as did Shorter, Prefontaine, etc).
Admittedly, Decker did run 1:56.9
Also, she was running 30 years ago.
I'm interested that the article says 40-50mpw is "10-20 less that her competition."
If so, they are saying 60mpw is the norm?
Yep, it's an Olympic year, so everyone bumped their training up. Laura went from 40 to 48 miles a week.
Zola Budd
In 1985 she claimed the world record officially, while representing Great Britain, clocking 14:48.07
rojo wrote:
The woman has already run 3:55 and 14:49 and now it comes out she barely trains.
The Guardian wrote:Muir’s coach, Andy Young, meanwhile, believes that more is to come, given that she only runs between 40 to 50 miles a week, around 10-20 fewer than most of her 1500m rivals. “The mix of fast- and slow-twitch fibres that she has gives her the ability to sprint and also run a marathon,†he says.
Has the world ever seen someone this talent who wasn't born in Africa (or China)?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2017/jan/08/laura-muir-glimpse-into-post-mo-farah-era
PEDs. Obviously.
dsrunner wrote:
Don't know if she was doping like the other Athletics West stars
but I hope she wasn't.
Fact is that that drug cheat was one of the very few who doped so much that she was actually caught, convicted and banned in the 90s.
Funny how here Laura is considered as the GOAT talent while her defenders in the other thread called her progression normal.
khow wrote:
I hate that she runs for Great Britain.
She should be racing for Scotland. They don't even want to be part of the UK.
Got to wonder if there's something special in her mother's haggis.
Quality over quantity, guys. 40-50 miles a week is plenty if it is done correctly.
Sunday: Off
Monday: Short track repeats: 20x200m (6miles)
Tuesday: 6-mile steady run
Wednesday: Long repeats: 5x1mile (9 miles)
Thursday: 6-mile steady run
Friday: Fartlek: 8x2min on/ 1 min off (8miles)
Saturday: Long, hard run (12 miles)
Total: 47 miles
QUEEN HASAY wrote:
She has not won a single global medal yet and she's the GOAT already? WTF?
The title belongs to Radcliffe.
The thread is about her talent - not her accomplishments.
Sadly, I've realized that people in our sport like to speculate about the future more than they do appreciate the present. I'm just playing to my audience.
She's got no speed and she's got no mileage.
Where is it coming from?
200 27.25
300 44.33
400 55.36i 55.36i 55.71i 57.86i 56.78 60.34/58.9 63.74/60.6
800 2:00.42 2:00.57 2:00.42 2:00.67 2:00.80 2:07.3 2:13.3 2:17.94 2:23.3 2:23.82 2:21.79 2:35.74
1500 3:55.22 3:55.22 3:58.66 4:00.07 4:07.76 4:14.52 4:38.90 4:50.91 4:58.77 4:47.92 4:48.97 5:12.39 5:33.16
Mile 4:19.12
No.
Mary Decker set WR :
1500m
1 mile
3000m
5000m
10000m
And don't even get me started on the americn records that she set.
casual obsever wrote:
[quote]dsrunner wrote:
Don't know if she was doping like the other Athletics West stars
but I hope she wasn't.
Fact is that that drug cheat was one of the very few who doped so much that she was actually caught, convicted and banned in the 90s.
Mary was exonerated by USADA. The test that gave her a positive is no longer being used for women because it is unreliable and had too many false positives.
We used to be told that Seb Coe ran under 50 mpw at the time. It only later came out that they didn't count a lot of his mileage... only the "quality work". I suspect that they are saying the same thing.
ummm ever heard of Jordan Hasay?
Race tactics already cost Muir an Olympic medal in 2016. Let's hope that part improves in 2017 and beyond.
great facts, a little anger, but you hit it on the head.this kind of training is all you need. thanks for writing it outthis is basically how i trained in college because i couldn't handle mileage. i ran 3:49 and 1:51 on 40-50 mpw. i ran one easy run per week, everything else was workouts and what we called sub-thresh runs. 5 minute warmup easy, 20-25 minutes around 5:50-6:15 pace, shorter jog cool down. no breaks, just head out of the house and do this 2-3 times a week. takes less than 40 minutesnever got under 15:20 in the 5k though in the ncaa, so perhaps mileage would have helped.i ran about 15:10 when i was 30 yrs old on 60 mpw though, so i think my aerobic ability just wasn't physically developed in my late teens, early 20's
longjack wrote:
rojo wrote:The woman has already run 3:55 and 14:49 and now it comes out she barely trains.
Has the world ever seen someone this talent who wasn't born in Africa (or China)?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2017/jan/08/laura-muir-glimpse-into-post-mo-farah-erawhat is up with brojos? with 2 of the stupidest possible comments? back to back? 50 miles per week is fine if you do it right....it is not barely training. this comment is a very bad joke.
if you don't count jogging and some cross training and make most of it, the running, is quality then you have the equivalent of the 100 mile per week of stupid fame,.
3 miles at 6 minutes/mile morning, 3 miles at 6 minutes evening in evening plus 10x 150 m stride outs. that is a 7 mile day.
then to 5 x repeat mile at 440 pace. and stride outs and 2 mile run that is 8 miles.
try hill work, 800 m repeats up a steep hilll. say x 8. and a morning run, that is 6 miles.
try a 8 mile tempo run..
try a 12 mile run on saturday steady.
try sunday off, with an easy bike ride and swimming.
try 2 days in the gym for 45 minutes or so with quality work.
you got to learn that a mile and 3 miles is not far. you need outstanding aerobic ability, and the question about training is, do you have outstanding aerobic ability??? once you have that, then you want to finish, of course, and the second half, got it , the second half of the training is focused on the finish ability.
so if you can run 10 miles in 50 minutes, you are fine aerobically, and as a woman, you can run simultaneously a 53 quarter, then you are in business.
the wojos, the best in the business, have so much to learn, despite all the info at their disposal..
good lord.
Muir, Hawkins and Bruchart with massive improvements since 2014. What are they doing that's so innovative! A country of 5 million almost able to match the performances of the USA in most major championships!
Muir, Hawkins and Bruchart with massive improvements since 2014. What are they doing that's so innovative! A country of 5 million almost able to match the performances of the USA in most major championships!
Barry Fudge got his degree in Scotland too.
Run4It:
"Barry is a sports scientist, specialising in physiology and is a former Scottish Schools rugby cap. He comes from Fort William, studied at Glasgow University and is now based at Loughborough.
So what does he actually do? Barry explained: “My role is to manage the athletes we have on the British athletics world class plan. There are about 15 athletes on the plan and these include quite a mixture, from Mo at the top, who is the currently the best in the world at what he does, to others who we believe have the potential to be podium athletes at major championships over the next four to six years."
It's the world class plan, man. Sorry, can't tell you guys. Only 55 second speed and no mileage.
Barry is based in the same city where Paula and Gary went to university.
Just a coincidence.
Loughborough is suspect. The UK high class performance centers are also suspect.
Easy to read between the lines
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.