I live outside Philly and don't drink much soda but the tax definitely adds up when you're buying in bulk.
I don't see why people are upset. That money is going to help pay for schools and roads as well as feed the homeless. Anyone who can't handle a few dollars increase on their pop to benefit society is selfish.
I'd gladly pay the tax!
That would set me back 10 bucks a week. That's just idiotic.
NotMyPresident wrote:
I don't see why people are upset. That money is going to help pay for vacation homes at the Jersey shore for people who sell soda in the near ring suburbs. Also a nice chunk of cash for politically connected school district and union administrators. Anyone who can't handle a few dollars increase on their pop to benefit society is selfish.
I'd gladly pay the tax!
Fixed it for you. Philly doing what Philly do, milking every cent they can out of people too poor to get out.
I don't see this as much different from the cigarette tax.
Completely Nuts.
I'd be fine with it if it applied ONLY to sugary beverages. These things, imo, are toxic and directly contribute to diabetes and obesity. Tax away.
There is NO reason for calorie free drinks to be taxed and specialty milk should also be exempt.
NotMyPresident wrote:
I don't see why people are upset. That money is going to help pay for schools and roads as well as feed the homeless. Anyone who can't handle a few dollars increase on their pop to benefit society is selfish.
I'd gladly pay the tax!
Riiiiiiiiight. If you truly believe the money will go to schools and roads, you are a moran.
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
Riiiiiiiiight. If you truly believe the money will go to schools and roads, you are a moran.
Then who pays the firemen and teachers? Taxes are the price we pay for a free society that benefits everyone and I will gladly give my money to the government to help others! I'm sorry that you think what little waste the government does is more concerning than all the millions of lives bettered by the US government.
Life can even be better if we tax the rich more since they don't contribute their fair share.
fgjhdfhgd wrote:
Completely Nuts.
I'd be fine with it if it applied ONLY to sugary beverages. These things, imo, are toxic and directly contribute to diabetes and obesity. Tax away.
There is NO reason for calorie free drinks to be taxed and specialty milk should also be exempt.
Your opinion is completely nuts. Sugary beverages are not toxic. Your body runs on sugar. This is why we use science and facts not ignorant opinions.
Jcjc wrote:
fgjhdfhgd wrote:Completely Nuts.
I'd be fine with it if it applied ONLY to sugary beverages. These things, imo, are toxic and directly contribute to diabetes and obesity. Tax away.
There is NO reason for calorie free drinks to be taxed and specialty milk should also be exempt.
Your opinion is completely nuts. Sugary beverages are not toxic. Your body runs on sugar. This is why we use science and facts not ignorant opinions.
Troll. Excessive sugar consumption is CLEARLY associated with obesity and diabetes. To argue otherwise is foolish. Never mind tooth decay.
What else explains the epidemic of diabetes and related conditions?
fghfc wrote:
Troll. Excessive sugar consumption is CLEARLY associated with obesity and diabetes. To argue otherwise is foolish. Never mind tooth decay.
What else explains the epidemic of diabetes and related conditions?
Sugar intake is not the whole story. Consider the research showing the correlation between animal protein intake and diabetes.
"Those eating a lot of animal protein [...] had 73 times the risk of dying from diabetes.
Now, those that chose moderation (only eating a moderate amount of animal protein)—they just had 23 times the risk of death from diabetes."
http://nutritionfacts.org/video/how-not-to-die-from-diabetes/yoooooooo wrote:
fghfc wrote:Troll. Excessive sugar consumption is CLEARLY associated with obesity and diabetes. To argue otherwise is foolish. Never mind tooth decay.
What else explains the epidemic of diabetes and related conditions?
Sugar intake is not the whole story. Consider the research showing the correlation between animal protein intake and diabetes.
"Those eating a lot of animal protein [...] had 73 times the risk of dying from diabetes.
Now, those that chose moderation (only eating a moderate amount of animal protein)—they just had 23 times the risk of death from diabetes."
http://nutritionfacts.org/video/how-not-to-die-from-diabetes/
That's because vegetarians are less likely to consume fried foods. Also red meats are clearly more likely to cause such issues than poultry or fish. I'm sure if you controlled for type of animal protein, or type of preparation (frieds vs baked vs grilled) you would absorb most of that 73x just there.
Jcjc wrote:
Your opinion is completely nuts. Sugary beverages are not toxic. Your body runs on sugar. This is why we use science and facts not ignorant opinions.
You obviously don't have an understanding of the difference between monosaccharides, disaccharides and oligosaccharides so I'd recommend just not weighing in on this one.
Xanax wrote:
That's because vegetarians are less likely to consume fried foods. Also red meats are clearly more likely to cause such issues than poultry or fish. I'm sure if you controlled for type of animal protein, or type of preparation (frieds vs baked vs grilled) you would absorb most of that 73x just there.
Agreed that additional controls would be nice to see, but on the same site there are many links to reviews of studies on other factors contributing to diabetes with some counterpoints to your argument. For example, "Eggs may be particularly risky – eating only one egg a week may almost double the odds of getting diabetes. Fish, especially salmon, is one of the primary sources of PCBs and other industrial toxins, which may play a role in the development of diabetes."
http://nutritionfacts.org/topics/diabetes/[quote]yoooooooo wrote:
Agreed that additional controls would be nice to see, but on the same site there are many links to reviews of studies on other factors contributing to diabetes with some counterpoints to your argument. For example, "Eggs may be particularly risky – eating only one egg a week may almost double the odds of getting diabetes. Fish, especially salmon, is one of the primary sources of PCBs and other industrial toxins, which may play a role in the development of diabetes."
Interesting. I guess the option is risk diabetes or don't get enough protein. Guess I'll have to take my chances with diabetes.
Government has turned into a big time money grab. Politicians have developed an addiction to pandering to voters and the media via costly high profile "society building and improvement" programs with no regard to the burdens being placed on the consumer and working class.
Bib #1 wrote:
Government has turned into a big time money grab. Politicians have developed an addiction to pandering to voters and the media via costly high profile "society building and improvement" programs with no regard to the burdens being placed on the consumer and working class.
Drinking soda places a much bigger burden on the consumer and working class than a 1.5% tax.
I don't understand some people's aversion to letting our least desirable citizens pay for our public services and infrastructure. We let them live in our country even though they are fat, poor, and stupid. They can pay a tax on their poverty drinks to repay a small portion of our generosity.
NotMyPresident wrote:
I don't see why people are upset. That money is going to help pay for schools and roads as well as feed the homeless. Anyone who can't handle a few dollars increase on their pop to benefit society is selfish.
I'd gladly pay the tax!
Let me clarify for you. Its Philly. I live down the road. The ones paying the tax will be those who can't afford it.
And I guarantee much of that money will be siphoned off before it gets tot he schools.
And in typical philly fashion, they have already spent that money. People will stop buying in Philly when they can buy on the outskirts, and those revenues will never be enough.
They'd never put it on booze, as the Mayor would end up self funding.