Amherst Cross Country Team Suspended Following Email Chain

I meant what I said. I doubt the coach knew of the content of the emails. S/he should review them, then determine an action plan.

Reviewing the action plan with the AD and Student Affairs would be the check to ensure that the coach is dealing with it in an appropriate way.

jimmy bobby wrote:

I meant what I said. I doubt the coach knew of the content of the emails. S/he should review them, then determine an action plan.

Reviewing the action plan with the AD and Student Affairs would be the check to ensure that the coach is dealing with it in an appropriate way.

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any word on the details of the "suspension?"

Just go to the Amherst athletics website and snoop on the track roster. No distance/mid-distance guys. I'm wondering if they'll be able to score more than 5 points in any meet this season?

Well said psycho-logist. Excellent post.

Maybe the cross country runners are misanthropic? But not with each other. That's why they hide in the woods, instead of marathoning in front of crowds.

FloFiddy wrote:

Just go to the Amherst athletics website and snoop on the track roster. No distance/mid-distance guys. I'm wondering if they'll be able to score more than 5 points in any meet this season?

So...the same as every other year?

I'm from the south, but I attended an esteemed private university further north and competed as a successful athlete in Division one there. Every team has some kind of sexist talk that occurs, every team. No athletic department is immune to this type of communication on men's teams. Big deal. Check out fraternities in the south...you want to see bad? Spend a weekend at an SAE or KA fraternity house at an SEC school, and then those of who you who are so easily offended will truly see how sexist things can get.

Libs are too sensitive wrote:

I'm from the south, but I attended an esteemed private university further north and competed as a successful athlete in Division one there. Every team has some kind of sexist talk that occurs, every team. No athletic department is immune to this type of communication on men's teams. Big deal. Check out fraternities in the south...you want to see bad? Spend a weekend at an SAE or KA fraternity house at an SEC school, and then those of who you who are so easily offended will truly see how sexist things can get.

Most teams aren't stupid enough to make a permanent electronic (i.e. easily sharable) record of their sexist talk.

don't be stupid about it wrote:

Most teams aren't stupid enough to make a permanent electronic (i.e. easily sharable) record of their sexist talk.

That's right. Cloak your xenophobia and racism in patriotism like Hannity, Stephen Miller, Jess Sessions & Trump do. You can fool a lot of people that way.

Libs are too sensitive wrote:

Spend a weekend at an SAE or KA fraternity house at an SEC school, and then those of who you who are so easily offended will truly see how sexist things can get.

Yeah? No worse than a typical weekend at an Amherst College fraternity house. If you wipe mud off the pig, you're still left with a pig.

This right here

Write some coherent thoughts before you spew your opinions on Letsrun. The The Right is just as obsessed with race, class, and gender as the Left is. You sound like you read Breitbart.

If you think that punishing a bunch of idiot college kids for writing horrible emails is 'demonizing masculinity', you have no idea what it means to be a man. Being masculine means supporting the weak and vulnerable, respecting women, doing your job well, and acting like a responsible adult. When did that stop being true? Your comments and those of several posters on this thread reek of insecurity and denial. Take a look at the women in your life and ask yourself if it would be acceptable to have men talk about them the way the Amherst team talked about their female teammates.

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exthrower wrote:

Race ..class..gender...The left is simply obsessed with these....Demonize masculinity....pussify American Men....Liberals are bordering on lunacy...

coincidence = coincidence wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/feb/14/michael-flynn-rnc-speech-video

Wow. You can't make this stuff up.

Speaking of up...

"Lock Him Up! Lock Him Up! Lock Him Up!"

Damn right!

I spent four years on a UK University team in the late 1970s - a very successful team - and we did our fair share of imbibing beer and occasionally acting in a pretty stupid/juvenile manner but I cannot remember any conversations along the lines of these Emails (of course, there weren't Emails back then).

There is a difference between something that might be considered a bit "near the knuckle", not to be repeated in polite company and the sort of racist, hateful drivel revealed in these Emails. If this sort of thing is common in US University sport it reveals a society with some pretty serious problems.

By the way, I do not consider myself to be "liberal" in any sense of the word, have very little time for the restrictions on expression imposed by so called "political correctness" but was brought up with a set of values that revolve around respect for other people and basic good manners.

I ran for a DIII program at a good school in the same era as that. Racism was not tolerated. There was locker room talk from time to time, but not about specific women.