Would you? Anyone ever tried? Let's hear some stories.
Would you? Anyone ever tried? Let's hear some stories.
oh nos wrote:
Would you? Anyone ever tried? Let's hear some stories.
True feminist? Then yes. New age feminazi? Hell no
oh nos wrote:
Would you? Anyone ever tried? Let's hear some stories.
Dated a few, married one.
This is going to hurt your head: I'm a feminist, so your question is redundant for me
And yes I am a dude
To is, or not to is wrote:
This is going to hurt your head: I'm a feminist, so your question is redundant for me
And yes I am a dude
How exactly was the question redundant?
Peef of Choleece wrote:
How exactly was the question redundant?
re·dun·dant
rəˈdəndənt/
adjective
not or no longer needed or useful; superfluous.
"this redundant brewery has been converted into a library"
synonyms: unnecessary, not required, inessential, unessential, needless, unneeded, uncalled for
I would never have to ask myself whether I'd date a feminist because I am one. Thus the question is redundant "for me"
Hope that helps
To is, or not to is wrote:
Peef of Choleece wrote:How exactly was the question redundant?
re·dun·dant
rəˈdəndənt/
adjective
not or no longer needed or useful; superfluous.
"this redundant brewery has been converted into a library"
synonyms: unnecessary, not required, inessential, unessential, needless, unneeded, uncalled for
I would never have to ask myself whether I'd date a feminist because I am one. Thus the question is redundant "for me"
Hope that helps
I see.....
And where exactly did the OP ask if YOU were a feminist?
brojo wrote:
True feminist? Then yes. New age feminazi? Hell no
This. I'm with a woman who is a feminist. However she understands that questioning aspects of a patriarchal power structure, does not have to imply that all men are evil.
To answer the OP's question though, I'd need to know to what degree feminism we're talking here. A girl that supports women's rights and doesn't conform to traditional gender roles? Sure.
But these militant, men-hating, "victims of the patriarchy"? Hell f*cking no.
The girls I've known that fit into the second category were some of the most miserable people to be around. No control over their lives, lazy, obnoxious, disrespectful, "persecuted" in every aspect of their lives, couldn't keep a man or a job that was more than $10/hour, yet refused to take even an ounce of responsibility for any of it.
I have dated and lived with women who actually could be called heavily into the womens rights movement of the 1960s and 70s.
No different from any other woman I dated or lived with including the Wiccan Priestess (except for the sleeping in a coffin thing, of course) .
why not he asked wrote:
I have dated and lived with women who actually could be called heavily into the womens rights movement of the 1960s and 70s.
No different from any other woman I dated or lived with including the Wiccan Priestess (except for the sleeping in a coffin thing, of course) .
OK on reflection they might not have needed as much of a Tom Sawyerish approach in get them on top to do the hard physical work during sex or maneuver them into fighting for or defending their right to sleep on the wet spot as some other womendid.
btw:
Is it sleep in or sleep on the wet spot?
To is, or not to is wrote:
I would never have to ask myself whether I'd date a feminist because I am one. Thus the question is redundant "for me"
Hope that helps
I assume you also date men, since you are a man
To is, or not to is wrote:
This is going to hurt your head: I'm a feminist, so your question is redundant for me
And yes I am a dude
Interesting. Are you one of these dudes?
http://is.4chan.org/pol/1481486232364.jpghttp://i.4cdn.org/pol/1481485918670.jpghttp://i.4cdn.org/pol/1481479584265.pngsome letsrun dude wrote:
oh nos wrote:Would you? Anyone ever tried? Let's hear some stories.
Dated a few, married one.
This.
I've also noticed that most of the guys who have a "problem" with feminists also seem to have have a problem with women in general. I'm sure it's just coincidental....
oh nos wrote:
Would you? Anyone ever tried? Let's hear some stories.
Contrary to what you'll find on these boards, most feminists are normal and functional people, who have a stronger than normal opinion on several (fairly relevant) issues like domestic abuse, rape, etc.
On the other hand, there is also a sub-group of feminists who care very little about actual problems and instead focus on whatever can get them attention. They take something that's completely inconsequential, and will inflate it to ridiculous proportions, to the benefit of no one.
For instance, the sub-group of feminists who have been trying for years to vilify how "girl" aisles in toy stores are filled with the color pink. In case they haven't realized, the only reason this happens to begin with is that many young girls, for reasons I don't have any interest in understanding, like the color pink. If they didn't like the color pink, manufacturers would be the first to stop producing it. Somehow, an angry sub-culture of women do not understand this.
While I agree with you that pink for young girls is nowhere near a pressing issue, pink is not biologically attractive to women, women are socialized to like pink when they are younger because it helps to separate them from men. There is no reason for colors to have gender
oh nos wrote:
Would you? Anyone ever tried? Let's hear some stories.
I've got news for you buddy-- if you are going to limit your dating pool to women who don't believe in gender and pay equality, you ain't gonna be dating much.
I can honestly say I know one single-- very religious-- woman who honestly believed that women were not equal to men, that she should be submissive to her husband, etc.
A better question would be if anyone has ever dated a non-feminist woman and what was that like....
I dated and finally lived with one for five years, between the ages of 21 and 26. After insisting on her right to explore her own sexuality during a solo summer vacation, she ended up leaving me for a guy we both knew--a fellow grad student at Columbia.
So yes: I've had experience with that. I thought of myself as a feminist then and I still call myself one today. When I teach Kate Chopin's novel "The Awakening," as I did this term in an American Lit survey, I always talk about how she's oppressed by the patriarchy--her husband Leonce, his two little boys, and Leonce's big gruff father. I'm not one of those people who tosses around the word patriarchy as though it explains all that needs explaining. But sometimes it's a valuable analytic tool.
But here's the thing: hell hath no fury like a reasonably nice guy whose longtime GF, a beautiful feminst, f--ks him over and cuckolds him. That will make a young man sit up straight and rethink. One thing that happened to me in the aftermath of that youthful tragedy was that I gained a powerful appreciation for the friendship of men: masculine fellowship. When my GF was my BFF (so to speak), I just hadn't placed very much focus on that. Guys need other guys. We just do. We have valuable wisdom--and it's NOT all antifeminist macho posturing, although you wouldn't know that from this forum.
I ended up healing myself in part by spending a lot of time exploring the New Age / spirituality and men's movement side of the aisle--including, for what it's worth, Clarissa Pinkola Estes's "Women Who Run With the Wolves." That's a book written for women, but it's got a lot of useful for wisdom for men as well. Yes, I'm one of the guys who bought Robert Bly's "Iron John" when it came out. I read Sam Keen's "Fire in the Belly." David Deida's "The Way of the Superior Man." Younger men should read those books. Bly talked about the naively "nice" and utterly un-defended young man--an inexperienced feminist who thinks women have all the answers--who opens his chest and lets the woman or women in his life freely take of the treasures in his heart. That was me. Deida, kooky-Buddhist as he can sometimes sound, helped me understand that most women don't actually LIKE soft, androgynous men, regardless of what they say. Deida speaks of masculine purpose, masculine firmness. That's not the same as macho. It's closer to old-school quiet confidence. Somebody who is quietly confident is also somebody unafraid of raising his voice when that's called for, but it's also somebody conscious enough of what his own wounds are, and resolved enough, that he's able to focus his attentions powerfully on the woman in his life--or the women he would have be a part of his life.
It's possible to be both thoughtful and decisive. Strong and modest. Playful and serious. I'd recommend those three books by Bly, Keen, and Deida. I'd also recommend that you steer clear of any woman who would, a priori, decide that you're either the Antichrist or a macho idiot for reading them.
Haha. Here you go. Try reading THIS in the subway.
I won't date a non-feminist, just not the tumblr type. Counter to some opinions "feminist" is a fairly inclusive category. For example, not all feminists sit online complaining all day, similarly to how not all runners sit around complaining on LRC.