White man assaults 15 year old Autistic black cross-country runner on course

oodo wrote:

Did he have prior knowledge that the kid was handicapped? Is it obvious that someone who is able to run has a handicap?

So you're the type that shoots first and asks questions later?

I can't for the life of me comprehend how a 130 pound boy wearing a uniform with a number pinned on his chest could be construed as threat to a grown man in a moving vehicle. A 57 year old man knows that he can not put his hands on another person. You don't get a pass because black youths broke into your car recently. At most you can get leniency on punishment but it does not justify the crime.

Shame on this man and shame on the police and prosecutor for trying to take the easy route and not pursue the case. The 57 year old man committed an act of violence. The young man deserves our collective protection and a message needs to be sent that violence can not be tolerated in our society.

I found this article shocking and I am not easily shocked.

oodo wrote:

jjjjjj wrote:

This is a sad incident. The poor kid is hardly able to function and had found something that he liked and that helped include him in a supportive group and now after being attacked for no reason whatsoever has quit the team and become even more isolated in his life.

Stop being dishonest. He was not attacked for "no reason whatsoever". It is sad, but life is not "fair" for socially handicapped people. There's only so much you can do.

There is a lot more to this story but it doesn't fit the media's angle. Mom went to the media and is looking for some $$$$$.

He is a fraud wrote:

oodo wrote:

Stop being dishonest. He was not attacked for "no reason whatsoever". It is sad, but life is not "fair" for socially handicapped people. There's only so much you can do.

There is a lot more to this story but it doesn't fit the media's angle. Mom went to the media and is looking for some $$$$$.

Proof?

I am a bigot??? For saying that this kid shouldn't have been attacked for running down the middle of a road with his xc uniform and # pinned to his chest. You are a mental case.

If anyone's at fault it's his team and coaches. Kids on the spectrum are obviously more vulnerable, and they should have been looking out him, before, after, and yes, even during the race.

If you Google "Martin MacDonald" Rochester, NY you get a LinkedIn profile for a pastor of a local church. I am not sure if it is the same guy who assaulted the kid, but that would be an interesting twist to the story.

Steeple his car.

THIS IS DISGUSTING.

oodo wrote:

jjjjjj wrote:

You have a problem. Dishonest? He was running down the middle of a road during a xc race.

Yes, you are being dishonest. You are the one with a problem not me. Just because someone has a justification that you don't support does not mean it doesn't exist. The guy may have overreacted but it certainly was not for "no reason whatsoever". You are a bigot.

My friend, I think you are sorely mistaken. Try thinking about this in a different way. Is being afraid of a perceived threat, which has no objective reality outside your own imagination, a good justification for assaulting someone? In other words, is fear a legitimate reason to commit violence against someone when you have no proof the thing you fear is real?

I don't think so, and I think if you do you're buying into the insanity of modern thinking that holds that subjectivity is more important than objectivity. This man believed that the reason a 130 lb teenager in a cross country uniform was running down the road was because he was about to mug his wife, and that was a valid reason to shout at the kid and subsequently shove him across the street. Yet the premise of his reasoning was objectively false. The justification for his action did not actually exist outside his imagination. Simply being afraid of the possibility of a threat does not give you license to commit violence when there is no evidence of a threat. He is responsible for his actions just as we are all responsible for the actions we take under the influence of our irrational emotions.

However, if you believe there is something in the case of a skinny 130 lb kid with a race number and uniform running down a street which constitutes legitimate rational evidence that your safety is at risk, please explain it to me. Because I can't envision a scenario where that kind of failure in judgement makes any sense.

How does anyone, including you, know what really happened?

"Why did that quarterback throw an interception to lose the game? We can clearly see that it was the completely wrong play after careful and detailed analysis after theach fact. He should have came to the same, immediate conclusion!"

No one will say that this man was right, nor did this kid deserve any kind of confrontation. However, I am sure the information available to us right now is vastly different than what was available during the incident. I doubt the accused is a violent, racist, disable person hating jerk.

Well the witnesses described it pretty well and both their stories matched up.

one for all and all for one wrote:

If anyone's at fault it's his team and coaches. Kids on the spectrum are obviously more vulnerable, and they should have been looking out him, before, after, and yes, even during the race.

Aaaaand Here we go.

School's fault right? Only way to make things right is a lawsuit which is what the next step will be.

That kid should not have been on the team. The coach and team tried to do something nice for the kid and will end up paying for it.

But HEY, at least ONE KID was helped for awhile, that has to be worth a few million dollars.

Monmorn wrote:

"Why did that quarterback throw an interception to lose the game? We can clearly see that it was the completely wrong play after careful and detailed analysis after theach fact. He should have came to the same, immediate conclusion!"

No one will say that this man was right, nor did this kid deserve any kind of confrontation. However, I am sure the information available to us right now is vastly different than what was available during the incident. I doubt the accused is a violent, racist, disable person hating jerk.

You doubt that because you are either a troll or a very very stupid person. I suspect the latter.

Killed yelled to the guy to "f*ck Off Cracker'.

one for all and all for one wrote:

If anyone's at fault it's his team and coaches. Kids on the spectrum are obviously more vulnerable, and they should have been looking out him, before, after, and yes, even during the race.

A grown man gets out his car and assaults the kid then lies that his wife was going to be mugged. The judge dismisses the case.

And its the team's fault?

This has nothing to do with whether the person is autistic or not. If you are driving a car and a pedestrian is in the way, you honk your horn. If they do not respond, you drive around them. Thats what people in a civilized society do. You do not assault them.Especially if they are wearing a race uniform.

The fact that the child is disabled only makes it worse.

He should get the book thrown at him. The kid was wearing a number and was a runner and he resorted to violence? The guy needs to understand that runners are not violent. We run and avoid trouble. That guy was just being a prick. If he was physically confronted then ok fight, but even if the kid was running at him it doesnt mean he's going to pick a fight. The guy was just a total loser, afraid, or a total prick and deserves the book thrown at him. Either way he needs to learn a lesson and man up. I wouldnt fight somebody unless I know for sure they want to pick a fight. You have to know for sure first, that means I need to see fists. Then ok, I'm in.

book thrown at him wrote:

He should get the book thrown at him. The kid was wearing a number and was a runner and he resorted to violence? The guy needs to understand that runners are not violent. We run and avoid trouble. That guy was just being a prick. If he was physically confronted then ok fight, but even if the kid was running at him it doesnt mean he's going to pick a fight. The guy was just a total loser, afraid, or a total prick and deserves the book thrown at him. Either way he needs to learn a lesson and man up. I wouldnt fight somebody unless I know for sure they want to pick a fight. You have to know for sure first, that means I need to see fists. Then ok, I'm in.

And autistic kids dont pick fights. I'm sorry, but this case is done. I have not read one story where an autistic kid picked a fight. Their problem is that they don't know how to get involved socially, instead they avoid social interaction and social interaction and eye contact is difficult unless they are very mild. This is ludicrous, the guy is a total loser and deserves the book. If the kid was 'normal' then he might have a case but here there is no arguement if the kid was diagnosed with autism. He's simply not going to pick a fight, trust me. Unless he was grabbed and made to do something he didnt want to do then he would resist and might bite scratch, hit, etc.