This 'kneeling' crap is so narcissistic to me

Do you even know what the word "narcissism" means?

brave in fact wrote:

Do you even know what the word "narcissism" means?

Great post!

+10

I tend to agree. If they want to protest, they should turn around and bow their head rather than kneel at attention.

bleck wrote:

If these people really want to initiate change, they will do things like working with community leaders to help understand the problem at the ground level, and donate money to causes they care about that can really make a difference (Boys and Girls Club, for instance).

You do realize that Kaepernick et al. are already doing this right?

I've only been following Brandon Marshall of the Broncos, but that's exactly what he's doing. In addition to kneeling, he met with the Chief of Police for the City of Denver, and is doing other outreach initiatives. He does a lot in our community.

I struggle to understand why more Americans don't see that conducting a ritualistic ceremony to your government is more akin to Nazi Germany, North Korea, or ISIS occupied Iraq than it is to the land of the free and the home of the brave.

We're disgusted by the barbarism of ISIS lopping peoples' heads off for not praying at sunset, and by Kim Jong-Un blowing up his cabinet members when they don't salute his portrait; yet we're outraged to the point of death threats to a man who doesn't conduct a ceremony of worship to his government?

Its something none of us she be doing in the first place.

bleck wrote:

I am 100% all for free speech and peaceful protest.

Even worse is that people think these athletes have a right to free speech and peaceful protesting. They don't. They are private employees and will only be allowed to continue this behavior if the NFL allows them to. Americans are very ignorant about their own rights.

Even worse is that this whole protest is wrong. Whites are killed by police more than blacks. Even adjusting for population, whites and blacks have about equal chances of being killed by police.

The Democrats are manipulating the public.

kvkvv wrote:

bleck wrote:

I am 100% all for free speech and peaceful protest.

Even worse is that people think these athletes have a right to free speech and peaceful protesting. They don't. They are private employees and will only be allowed to continue this behavior if the NFL allows them to. Americans are very ignorant about their own rights.

Even worse is that this whole protest is wrong. Whites are killed by police more than blacks. Even adjusting for population, whites and blacks have about equal chances of being killed by police.

The Democrats are manipulating the public.

If you are going to post blatant falsehoods, at least cite a source for your nonsense claims.

the letter why wrote:

kvkvv wrote:

Even worse is that people think these athletes have a right to free speech and peaceful protesting. They don't. They are private employees and will only be allowed to continue this behavior if the NFL allows them to. Americans are very ignorant about their own rights.

Even worse is that this whole protest is wrong. Whites are killed by police more than blacks. Even adjusting for population, whites and blacks have about equal chances of being killed by police.

The Democrats are manipulating the public.

If you are going to post blatant falsehoods, at least cite a source for your nonsense claims.

The source is Lets Run and everything is factual here.

kvkvv wrote:

Even worse is that people think these athletes have a right to free speech and peaceful protesting. They don't. They are private employees and will only be allowed to continue this behavior if the NFL allows them to. Americans are very ignorant about their own rights.

I don't need to exercise a right to not conduct a ritualistic ceremony to my government. The US government answers to me, the citizen, no vice versa.

Stopping my freely chosen activities, standing, facing a representation of my government, and placing my hand over my heart (or, in my case, saluting, as a veteran) in reverence to said government is not an American activity. Its an activity of the oppressed. Something you'd expect from the North Koreans...not the United States.

This strange activity is relatively knew to our nation's history and should be stomped out and forgotten.

Of course you have a right to display what affections you'd like to a representation of your government, but you're not obligated to.

Good point, dude. Peaceful protest certainly has no place in this great country of ours!

Devil Dog wrote:

I struggle to understand why more Americans don't see that conducting a ritualistic ceremony to your government is more akin to Nazi Germany, North Korea, or ISIS occupied Iraq than it is to the land of the free and the home of the brave.

We're disgusted by the barbarism of ISIS lopping peoples' heads off for not praying at sunset, and by Kim Jong-Un blowing up his cabinet members when they don't salute his portrait; yet we're outraged to the point of death threats to a man who doesn't conduct a ceremony of worship to his government?

Its something none of us she be doing in the first place.

Well said. Love it.

You know why nobody respinds to this, right ;) Hits too close to home for the boys here on LetsRun!

Just so you know, Adolf, being black does not make someone "narcissistic."

It's funny that Kaepernick is protesting police violence against minorities and the crooked and manipulative media says he's protesting racial inequality. Id say lets protest the media and their brainwashing tactics in any effort to make a dollar.

I don't know why he kneels but he needs to give it a rest. No one had ever heard this guys name outside of close fans of the sport/that team. Now he is a household name all over the western world. When you're an attention whore, it helps to not milk it for too long. He's got it out for harambe, we get it. Now put your deck back in your pants, stand the fukk up, and give the anthem the respect it deserves.

Initiating change also starts with making people like you (prolly a middle class white dude who has never experiences racism or opression) uncomfortable.

The National Anthem blows...

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/palbps/stand-up-daniel-tosh--uncensored---national-anthems

What are they "protesting"?

We just had a high profile track athletes daughter get caught in the crossfire of black on black, and we're witnessing the continuation of protests over something that pales in comparison to the tragedy of Trinity Gay.

When are these "protests" going to address that?