ED WHITLOCK 3:56:33 WORLD RECORD MARATHON M85-89. PLEASE STOP IT.

Ed's not so great. I beat him yesterday by 18 minutes and there are only 6 age groups between us.

Like Everest, baby wrote:

Ed's not so great. I beat him yesterday by 18 minutes and there are only 6 age groups between us.

Clearer:

Ed's not so great. I beat him yesterday by 18 minutes and I am younger by only 6 age groups.

What kind of training does he do?

Ed Whitlock - GOAT!

ck3237 wrote:

What kind of training does he do?

3h of daily plodding in the nearby graveyard.

GOAT!

Tony Cerminaro set a national 80+ age group record of 3:57:25 at Steamtown a week ago (Ed holds the world record of 3:15). I wonder if Ed knew about that time and wanted to show the kid that an older guy could beat his time.

I thought if he set the WR then he would be @ 100% ?

Bring Back the 880 wrote:

Age grading is beyond stupid, but any world record is, by definition, 100% or greater.

No, it isn't. Age-grading for each event relies on a smoothed curve fitting the single-year bests over a wide range of ages. That's because performances aren't perfectly smooth -- for example, Whitlock's age-70 world best is 3:00, which is SLOWER than his world bests at 72, 73, and 74. You could claim that the 72, 73, and 74 records are all "greater than 100%," but the curve-fitting process tells you that in reality, it's the age-70 record that's weaker than the records from surrounding years, so it would be assigned an age-graded score of less than 100%.

Once you get to the oldest ages (e.g. 85!), there's a HUGE amount of scatter in how strong individual records are, so the age-graded numbers aren't very reliable and depend strongly on what curve-fitting procedure you use.

Is it really a WR? NO, because the WORLD implies that he beat everybody in the world which he didn't. All he did was beat everybody in his age group. Stop calling it a WR and start calling it what it really is, an AGE GROUP record!

Is it really a WR? NO, because the WORLD implies that he beat everybody in the world which he didn't. All he did was beat everybody in his age group. Stop calling it a WR and start calling it what it really is, an AGE GROUP record!

WR? wrote:

Is it really a WR? NO, because the WORLD implies that he beat everybody in the world which he didn't. All he did was beat everybody in his age group. Stop calling it a WR and start calling it what it really is, an AGE GROUP record!

And a WR should be called the "World Human Record."

theohiostate wrote:

WR? wrote:

Is it really a WR? NO, because the WORLD implies that he beat everybody in the world which he didn't. All he did was beat everybody in his age group. Stop calling it a WR and start calling it what it really is, an AGE GROUP record!

And a WR should be called the "World Human Record."

No. If it's not faster than every creature on the planet, it's not a "world record". The OP called Ed's records "M85-89 WORLD RECORDS" (that's a quote) and WR? says that's not right, you can't call it a world record. So you can't call a women's world record a "world record" or a human world record a "world record". It's a "human record" or "women's record", you cannot use "world".

rjm33 wrote:

BOOM!!!

Oh boy Ed.

So far this year...you have set M85-89 WORLD RECORDS for the Mile, 5K, 10K, Half-Marathon…and now the Marathon.

Once again…Canadian Superhero™ Ed Whitlock shows superior range…compared to Brit Mo Farah.

Hey Ed.

Are you getting bored yet?

We're still claiming Ed Whitlock as a Brit. And Jon Brown. And Mo Farah.

WR? wrote:

Is it really a WR? NO, because the WORLD implies that he beat everybody in the world which he didn't. All he did was beat everybody in his age group. Stop calling it a WR and start calling it what it really is, an AGE GROUP record!

It is a WR because he did beat everyone in the world, in his age group.

You're just salty.

WR? wrote:

Is it really a WR? NO, because the WORLD implies that he beat everybody in the world which he didn't. All he did was beat everybody in his age group. Stop calling it a WR and start calling it what it really is, an AGE GROUP record!

OK. But then you can't have women's world records or junior world records either.

Please do not forget the GOAT (including all Brits, all countries, all males, all females, all male/females, all others NOS... and also including all races, all religions, all atheists, all agnostics, all ages, and all sizes) Human:

Ms. Paula 'Perfect' Radcliffe…of Monte Carlo, Monaco.

(I like to call Paula…"The Perfect Brit".)

Here is my new plan for Ed Whitlock:

1) It is finally time for Ed to end this aerobic base phase of about 45 years…and now do a speedwork peaking phase…to run a sub 7:00 minute mile…even though I know that Ed will say that my plan is stupid.

His 3K time this year is already the equivalent of a sub 7:00 minute mile.

2) I think it is possible that Ed can run a sub 4 hour marathon, sub 1:50 Half-marathon, sub 50 minute 10K, sub 24 minute 5K, and sub 7:00 minute mile...at the age of 85…or older.

Hey Ed.

I hope you like my new plan for you.

OK?

The polymaths wrote:

Ed's older brother. wrote:

Maybe, but most of us are still capable of basic maths.

Oh yeah? What's the square root of Ed's age graded performance?

What don't you understand about "most of us are still capable of basic maths"?, note the basic.

However, in response to your question, this may be of help to you:

Thou shall remember that Monaco's 160m height is high altitude for a Brit and that it used to be the den of Hercules - one of the first and definitely the most complete athlete of the ancient times - according to some bored Roman dude.

Enlightening, right?

Ed is humble but he has played it safe, he can definitely improve his M85 records. See how fresh he was on the finish line :

A quick look shows he will crush most of the M90 records easily. But more important is that he could get the same age-grade score as a 31yo performing a 2h marathon with a 4h30 M90 one!

Most people loose a lot of speed beyond 85yo, so I agree that aiming at some fast track records as a little speed work is necessary to break this mythical barrier without much pain.

Beware kenyans, Ed is comin' to kick you asses!

Ed Whitlock is the sport of long distance running