Terget or Kipchoge...who is the greatest Kenyan runner ever?

I never understand these kinds of threads. Who cares? They are two of the all-time greatest runners ever, of any country. The achievements of each are kind of like apples and oranges. Unless you have one that stands head and shoulders above all others (like Gretzsky in hockey), why the need to declare one to be the greatest. If it's not clear cut, just let be and celebrate each. Kenya is proud of both of them.

ghhhjj wrote:

I say Kipchoge, but it is close.

I liked Tergat, but Kipchoge's done the following:

-Been world champion on the track.

-Ran the fastest ever championship 5k time.

-Defeated El G. and Bekele at their prime in the above race, Bekele was faster than Geb (though maybe not greater) and El G. could beat both. Tergat lost to Geb repeatedly.

-Olympic champion.

-incredibly consistent over the marathon.

Neither one is the greatest Kenyan runner ever.

Ujay wrote:

Neither one is the greatest Kenyan runner ever.

True, Kiprop Keino is.

TrackBot! Compare Eliud Kipchoge vs Mo Farah

Head-to-head record between Eliud Kipchoge (left) and Mo Farah (right):

WC Saint-Galmier 2005-03-20: Cross Country 12.0 km: 35:37 (5) VS 37:50 (37)

Norwich Union Gateshead 2006-06-11: 3000 m: 7:33.54 (1) VS 7:45.25 (7)

WAF Stuttgart 2006-09-09: 3000 m: 7:41.46 (7) VS 8:00.60 (12)

WC Osaka 2007-09-02: 5000 m: 13:46.00 (2) VS 13:47.54 (6)

VD Bruxelles 2007-09-14: 5000 m: 12:50.38 (2) VS 13:07.00 (10)

WAF Stuttgart 2007-09-22: 3000 m: 7:50.93 (6) VS 7:49.89 (3)

WAF Stuttgart 2007-09-23: 5000 m: 13:40.49 (5) VS 13:41.61 (7)

BUPA Newcastle 2007-09-29: 3 km: 7:59 (2) VS 7:57 (1)

GSpike Ostrava 2008-06-12: 5000 m: 13:02.06 (1) VS 13:25.01 (17)

VD Bruxelles 2008-09-05: 5000 m: 13:06.12 (1) VS 13:08.11 (4)

WC Berlin 2009-08-23: 5000 m: 13:18.95 (5) VS 13:19.69 (7)

Aviva Gateshead 2010-07-10: 5000 m: 13:00.24 (2) VS 13:05.66 (7)

WK Zürich 2010-08-19: 5000 m: 13:07.06 (11) VS 12:57.94 (5)

Herc Monaco 2011-07-22: 5000 m: 12:59.01 (6) VS 12:53.11 (1)

WC Daegu 2011-09-04: 5000 m: 13:27.27 (7) VS 13:23.36 (1)

Aviva Birmingham 2012-02-18: Two Miles: 8:07.39 (1) VS 8:08.07 (2)

Eliud "MF" Kipchoge total wins: 11

Mo "DEVASTATED" Farah total wins: 5

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TrackBot! PRs Paul Tergat

PRs for Paul Tergat:

One Mile (Outdoor): 3:58.4h+ on 10 Aug 1996

2000 m (Outdoor): 4:57.4h+ on 10 Aug 1996

3000 m (Outdoor): 7:28.70 on 10 Aug 1996

5000 m (Outdoor): 12:49.87 on 13 Aug 1997

10000 m (Outdoor): 26:27.85 NR on 22 Aug 1997

10 km (Outdoor): 28:04 on 5 Jan 1998

20 km (Outdoor): 56:18+ on 4 Apr 1998

Half Marathon (Outdoor): 59:06 on 26 Mar 2000

Marathon (Outdoor): 2:04:55 on 28 Sep 2003

9 km (Outdoor): 26:03 on 16 Jan 2007

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And the answer is...Henry Rono. Unlike the others, he might have actually competed clean.

Checkered wrote:

And the answer is...Henry Rono. Unlike the others, he might have actually competed clean.

Kip Keino?

Mope Dealer wrote:

Checkered wrote:

And the answer is...Henry Rono. Unlike the others, he might have actually competed clean.

Kip Keino?

DAVID LEKUTA RUDISHA

Mope Dealer wrote:

Ujay wrote:

Neither one is the greatest Kenyan runner ever.

True, Kiprop Keino is.

Who is Kiprop Keino, and who is Terget?

Terget I forgat him.

He won feck all on the track

abraham chebii wrote:

Mope Dealer wrote:

Kip Keino?

DAVID LEKUTA RUDISHA

Checkered wrote "clean"

Not an easy decision between Tergat and Kipchoge, but I think I would go for Kipchoge, since Tergat never in has career was really dominant, which Kipchoge at the moment is. Also a 13 year span between global titles is unique.

But there are also other names which should be considered: Kipchoge Keino, David Rudisha, Moses Kiptanui, Ezekiel Kemboi... really not easy to decide.

Eliud Kipchoge should be in the top 10 all-time now, definitely ahead of Mo Farah. Much better PBs in the 3000m, 5000m, Marathon, also in the Half-Marathon. Almost equal in the 10000m. Farah's 4 doubles are also great, for sure, but his career record otherwise really is too weak. Without Kenenisa Bekele (arguably Nr. 2 distance runner ever, against he had to compete during Bekele's prime)), Kipchoge also would have more titles.

said88 wrote:

Not an easy decision between Tergat and Kipchoge, but I think I would go for Kipchoge, since Tergat never in has career was really dominant, which Kipchoge at the moment is. Also a 13 year span between global titles is unique.

But there are also other names which should be considered: Kipchoge Keino, David Rudisha, Moses Kiptanui, Ezekiel Kemboi... really not easy to decide.

Eliud Kipchoge should be in the top 10 all-time now, definitely ahead of Mo Farah. Much better PBs in the 3000m, 5000m, Marathon, also in the Half-Marathon. Almost equal in the 10000m. Farah's 4 doubles are also great, for sure, but his career record otherwise really is too weak. Without Kenenisa Bekele (arguably Nr. 2 distance runner ever, against he had to compete during Bekele's prime)), Kipchoge also would have more titles.

Henry Rono, Daniel Komen, Bernard Lagat, Wilson Kipketer and Noah Ngeny are also in the conversation.

Uniyun wrote:

Henry Rono, Daniel Komen, Bernard Lagat, Wilson Kipketer and Noah Ngeny are also in the conversation.

With his 2nd Olympic title from Rio, I think Rudisha definitely is ahead of Kipketer. Ngeny's career at the very top was too short. Rono and Komen have done something absolutely unique in a short period of time. Lagat not so unique, but for an very impressive period. Hard to argue against them.

Catherine Ndereba

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PRs for Paul Tergat:

One Mile (Outdoor): 3:58.4h+ on 10 Aug 1996

2000 m (Outdoor): 4:57.4h+ on 10 Aug 1996

3000 m (Outdoor): 7:28.70 on 10 Aug 1996

5000 m (Outdoor): 12:49.87 on 13 Aug 1997

10000 m (Outdoor): 26:27.85 NR on 22 Aug 1997

10 km (Outdoor): 28:04 on 5 Jan 1998

20 km (Outdoor): 56:18+ on 4 Apr 1998

Half Marathon (Outdoor): 59:06 on 26 Mar 2000

Marathon (Outdoor): 2:04:55 on 28 Sep 2003

9 km (Outdoor): 26:03 on 16 Jan 2007

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Crazy Tergat set his mile, 2k, and 3k pr's on the same day!! That's an awesome triple!!!