Is Katy Ledecky getting screwed by NCAA amateurism

messi wrote:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/olympics/ledecky-turning-down-dollar5-million-per-year-to-go-to-school/ar-BBw2ZV5?li=BBnb7Kz

NCAA is BIG business. Coaches & administrators make millions. Schools dictate what shoes a kid wears, yet Katy Ledecky can't endorse feminine hygiene products???? Unrelated to athletic uniform. She can't even endorse her favorite brand of vodka.

NCAA amateurism rules are killing someone like Ledecky more than a Heisman candidate.

Notice I have mentioned NOTHING about pay-to-play. Read my lips - I said nothing about pay-to-play.

How say u?

Let's see....

She can stay at college and GET PAID in FREE tuition, room, board, class fees, books and anything else related to the school.

Or, she can turn pro, and get all the endorsements she wants.

I am sick of all the whining about college athletes not getting paid.

Do YOU want to pay to go to USC (for example)?

All the stuff that is free would amount to about $150K/year.

That would be a pretty good salary for someone that swims.

There is no school in this entire country that could feasibly charge students $150K/year in expenses, or produce that much in benefits to its athletes.

The highest tuition & board expenses cost less than $65K. Add in every school-related expense, and you might reach $70K a year.

She should get all the endorsements that she wants.

Then if the NCAA bans her from competing, just go pro, and continue as usual.

She should take the money and swim

He didn't say any student pays $150k. He said that a student-athlete on top of your $70k gets free coaching, travel, pool time that they would have to pay for if they were not competing for the school.

Obviously, Katie would make more than $150k but I think it was Kassidy Cook that said swimming/diving on the Stanford team is like being at the Olympics 24/7/365. That kind of environment could be priceless to the right person.

Rent for a 2 bedroom flat is $3000/mo in Silicon Valley. She gets free room and board and is set for life in a new career if she graduates from Stanford.

The ncaa exploits some of the best athletes in the us and it disgusts me. Football players risk their careers with every game and have to watch their coaches make millions every year. I wish someone in ledeckys circle would advise her to go pro. She could still go to Stanford! She could still train! She should start her own pro team in Palo Alto. Take the millions in endorsements while you can!

For athletes at the very top, it is just wrong that the ncaa takes away their best money making years.

If I were her I would go pro and get the 5 million in endorsements this year I saw someone predict she could earn. The risks of injury and fun of swimming for a college are not worth it. See missy franklin. But her uncle is loaded so maybe he has thrown her some money to let her live out her dreams with some insurance that she will not ever struggle.

Sure, but she is far from the top of the list of collegiate athletes being screwed.

Asian Exclusion at Stanford wrote:

Rent for a 2 bedroom flat is $3000/mo in Silicon Valley. She gets free room and board and is set for life in a new career if she graduates from Stanford.

And doesn't have to go to Stanford or to be a dumb doctor to do it.

I said nothing about being paid to swim for Stanford. Am referring to endorsement deals the value of which she generated even before attending Stanford or NCAA. I am specifically documenting the top echelon athletes (Olympians, Heisman finalists, etc) who could generate endorsement $$$$ if the NCAA didn't prevent it with their hypocrisy "amateurism" argument. The NCAA administrators aren't being paid chump change.

Why do most college head coaches get paid more than a tenured professor?

Couldn't the "endorsement thing" be challenged in court in this day & age?

Again, this thread is NOT about pay-to-play; it is about ENDORSEMENTS.

Keep it coming.

Ledecky is a FOOL for not going pro after the Olympics. And lets be honest if she didn't come from a wealthy family with a couple of IVY league parents she would be going pro right now.

She could go pro, still go to Stanford, still train with the same coach, and be a millionare

Or Swim for Stanford, get the "collegiate experience" of being too fast to even train with any of her female teamates, win some NCAA titles (who cares she has Olympic gold medals), and not be a millionare

in 2016 to get a free ride to a PAKADEMIC-9 school is a gift from Allah. Katie can still turn pro like Simone Biles is doing while attending UCLA. But name one high school kid who would refuse entry to a PAKADEMIC-9 school?

AXC wrote:

Ledecky is a FOOL for not going pro after the Olympics. And lets be honest if she didn't come from a wealthy family with a couple of IVY league parents she would be going pro right now.

She could go pro, still go to Stanford, still train with the same coach, and be a millionare

Or Swim for Stanford, get the "collegiate experience" of being too fast to even train with any of her female teamates, win some NCAA titles (who cares she has Olympic gold medals), and not be a millionare

Some athletes want the total college experience (Missy Franklin). The debate is the NCAA/the system being a dictatorial monopoly as in "we make money; you can't". Again, I am only talking endorsements here.

I think she will get screwed (literally) by going to college, and that along with drinking, will screw her (figuratively) (at least with respect to swimming)

messi wrote:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/olympics/ledecky-turning-down-dollar5-million-per-year-to-go-to-school/ar-BBw2ZV5?li=BBnb7Kz

NCAA is BIG business. Coaches & administrators make millions. Schools dictate what shoes a kid wears, yet Katy Ledecky can't endorse feminine hygiene products???? Unrelated to athletic uniform. She can't even endorse her favorite brand of vodka.

NCAA amateurism rules are killing someone like Ledecky more than a Heisman candidate.

Notice I have mentioned NOTHING about pay-to-play. Read my lips - I said nothing about pay-to-play.

How say u?

NCAA Swimming is most certainly NOT big business.

Katie Ledecky isn't getting screwed by it. She is choosing to go swim in the NCAA. As with a lot of people, I don't understand why, but that's what she is doing.

messi wrote:

I said nothing about being paid to swim for Stanford. Am referring to endorsement deals the value of which she generated even before attending Stanford or NCAA. I am specifically documenting the top echelon athletes (Olympians, Heisman finalists, etc) who could generate endorsement $$$$ if the NCAA didn't prevent it with their hypocrisy "amateurism" argument. The NCAA administrators aren't being paid chump change.

Why do most college head coaches get paid more than a tenured professor?

Couldn't the "endorsement thing" be challenged in court in this day & age?

Again, this thread is NOT about pay-to-play; it is about ENDORSEMENTS.

Keep it coming.

Where would you draw the line? If any NCAA athlete can get paid for endorsements, what you will get is the following:

1. Joe Booster owns a hardware store

2. He wants his alumni's football team to get the best players

3. He pays the offensive line to do ads for his hardware store

asdghj wrote:

Katie Ledecky isn't getting screwed by it. She is choosing to go swim in the NCAA. As with a lot of people, I don't understand why, but that's what she is doing.

I don't either since she would take in huge endorsements, but she did get into Stanford. Swim careers can crater (Missy Franklin). Would Ledecky have made it into Stanford on academics alone?

Are you just now coming to this party? The matter was settled (pending another lawsuit) in the Jeremy Bloom case.

Ledecky is sort of lucky. She gets to keep the money from the USOC for the medals she won ($115K I think) whereas a runner cannot accept money for winning the local Turkey Trot. (Although I think there is an except that you can take enough money to cover expenses. At least in tennis that is the case.).

She knew the deal going in and had the opportunity to make a different decision.