I gotta believe Makh was close in that 1500 given that he started behind centro at the bell and made ground on him.
I gotta believe Makh was close in that 1500 given that he started behind centro at the bell and made ground on him.
According to this, he was RIGHT behind Centro. I can't remember the last lap but if he did indeed gain ground on him, then he must have lost ground early in the last lap.
didnt cacho do it in barca
whatthewhatthewhat wrote:
http://www.runmichigan.com/mynews/data/upimages/subfolders/results/atm015101_raceanalysis_2016_08_20_fa422345_4b53_492c_88e4_83ad0877c893.pdfAccording to this, he was RIGHT behind Centro. I can't remember the last lap but if he did indeed gain ground on him, then he must have lost ground early in the last lap.
According to that, he went from .3 to .11 behind Centro. That is
"closing on him" but not by very much. Still makes his final lap slightly faster than Centro's
That chart is interesting, it shows how Centro made his move at the perfect time of 1100m. His 1100 to 1200 was a 12.5 100m, so he basically ran that same pace for the last 500m. His 1000 to 1100 was a 13 second 100m, so he hadn't opened it up yet.
That slight gap he opened from 1100 to 1200 was what forced Mak to go onto the attack a little too late. I think if Mak hadn't let him pull that slight lead at that point, he would have been able to get around Centro. Instead, he was forced to deal with Souleiman and Iguider throwing off his stride while Centro was able to run completely unimpeded.
This happens so often. In a slow race, it's often not the one who "sits" and kicks who wins. If the pace is slow enough, then there's no need to draft because everyone is running within themselves. In that case, the best strategy is to be the one leading and the one who starts the kick. If you do both of those things, then you can start the real racing with an insurmountable lead.
runnerdnerd wrote:
whatthewhatthewhat wrote:http://www.runmichigan.com/mynews/data/upimages/subfolders/results/atm015101_raceanalysis_2016_08_20_fa422345_4b53_492c_88e4_83ad0877c893.pdfAccording to this, he was RIGHT behind Centro. I can't remember the last lap but if he did indeed gain ground on him, then he must have lost ground early in the last lap.
According to that, he went from .3 to .11 behind Centro. That is
"closing on him" but not by very much. Still makes his final lap slightly faster than Centro's
....
How is 2:59.6 equal to 0.3 behind 2:59.5 ???
runnerdnerd wrote:
That chart is interesting, it shows how Centro made his move at the perfect time of 1100m. His 1100 to 1200 was a 12.5 100m, so he basically ran that same pace for the last 500m. His 1000 to 1100 was a 13 second 100m, so he hadn't opened it up yet.
Speaking of which, in what world is 1500 - 1100 = 500?
Alex Kipchirchir 2006 in Athens: 49.5
Aouita in Lisbon 88: 49.7
Cram and Gonzalez in 87: 49.9
Cacho in 1992 50.6
Ryun in 67 50.6 (Dusseldorf - the race of the great 36.4-37.1 debate...)
Morcel in 93 50.6
Ovett in 80: 50.8
Coe in 80: 51.2
this thread has the best info/claims:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4807228
http://trackandfieldnews.com/discussion/archive/index.php/t-107935.html
http://trackandfieldnews.com/discussion/archive/index.php/t-130979.html
whatthewhatthewhat wrote:
http://www.runmichigan.com/mynews/data/upimages/subfolders/results/atm015101_raceanalysis_2016_08_20_fa422345_4b53_492c_88e4_83ad0877c893.pdfAccording to this, he was RIGHT behind Centro. I can't remember the last lap but if he did indeed gain ground on him, then he must have lost ground early in the last lap.
That link page has loads of mistakes if you compare with the clock on the video of the race. Some are out by 0.5 secs.
A good example of how inaccurate it is - it says Blankenship was first at 800 in 2:16.6 and Centrowitz was 2nd in 2:16.7. It is perfectly clear from the video of the race that Centrowitz was in the lead and went through in 2:16.59, with Blankenship a close second.
On the site where this pdf comes from, there is another per document citing Centrowitz as being in the lead at 800m in 2:16.59.
So it's not reliable or accurate.