no
cram looked best ever shape 800 in edinburgh-'86, fraction better than his zurich shape
cram in edinburgh-'86 ~
1'41-flat
cram in zurich-'85
~ 1'41-low/mid
all assuming, 1-off TT, 0 wind, 70F, drafted to bell, etc
he was for 800
cruz likely only 1'42-low shape that year if perfect run
Cram was in
~ 1'41-low/mid
in zurich, v cruz who he hammered who probably was in 1'42-mid if ideally run
all race records here :
http://www.thegreatdistancerunners.de/nonsense race
cram lost 1'46-mid to 1'46-low to coe
it means utter nonsense, as cram at peak in '85 was
~ 1'41-low/mid
but
~ 1'41-flat in '86
race is on youtube
cram probably just went straight to race after huge training blockk, or it was even part of training bloc !!!
it was rubbish 1'46-low
who on earth woud take any conclusions from that ?!
is this a joke ???
cram, after loss to coe above in 1'46-mid for cram, just a week later lost a 800 to mckean in rubbish 1'47.6, beaten by 0.3s
cram ran 3'29.6wr just coupla weeks later !!!
cram was obviously in huge training for those 800s with no break for them
joke run
he had run 3'46.3 with 52-mid intrinsic last 400
he ran 3'57.7 for this loss !!!
a joke
cram absolutely hammered mckean in edinburgh when running ~ 3.5m extra on bens, kicked by mckean at ~ 200m, costing ~ 0.2s, ran big -ve splits on miserable cold windy day of 1'43.22
that was worth, 1-off, 0 wind, 0 extra on bends, 70F, off 2s +ve
~ 1'41-flat
the loss in 800 euros was because cram was injured after edinburgh & had not got his speed
cram in edinburgh had 800 shape only matched ever by cruz/nijel at their peaks in 1-off races & only ever surpassed by Big-Man & Kip in synthetic track era
is this a joke ???
he blasted past cruz in zurich in last 200 !!!
it was rubbish 50.9 for him at bell
it wasn't 49-mid race
what about edinburgh ???
it had rubbish 51.03 at bell
cram crushed the field off a slow pace !!!
ovett ??
is this a joke ???
you think peak ovett had any chance against cram over 800 ???
is this a joke ???
he destroyed the field in edinburgh off rubbish 51.0 for leader
he destroyed cruz in zurich in last 100 off race opened in rubbish 50.61 for pacer
cram coud damn well run fast 800 off slow pace
is this a joke ???
ovett was in 1'42-high shape in '78
probably at worst in '80 as aiming for peak-career shape
he hammered coe over 800
coe made up virtually nothing in sprint over ovett
is this a joke ???
cram in '83 was in likely
~ 3'30-flat
if he'd got even pace / drafting to bell here :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_OQIBdh7xYhe wouda expected to be better for '84 of games year but got injured which wrecked his '84
cram wouda expected pretty much his '85 season in '84 if uninjured ->
~ 1'41-low / 3'28-flat
no chance
cram in '85 ran a 3'46.3 with 52-high intrinsic route-1 last 400
it was worth ~ 3'28-flat for route-1 at even-pace
it wouda hammered coe at any time in his life
coe was never going to break 3'29 ever in pre-'86
these nonsense last 100s show little
kwemoi is running 12-high in 3'30+ !!!
coe was in 3'29-low/mid shape in '84 in 1-off fully rested/perfect 1500
nothing more or less
cram in '83 was in slightly inferior shape, but hugely superior in '85
get a clue
he was worth for 1-off, fully rested 1500
~ 3'29-low/mid
it was marginally better than cram's '83 shape, but
HUGELY
worse than Aouita's '84 shape of
36.14 in 3'34.82 !!!
easily
cram was 1500/800
endurance/durabilty his key
it wouda been a hammering
cram in '85 was
~ 1'41-low/mid / 3'28-flat
cram in edinburgh was
~ 1'41-flat
no
cram wouda hammered coe over 800 & 1500
cram wouda hammered coe even worse over 800 in edinburgh shape
the 1500 is joke
coe was never better than 3'29+ in '81
is this a joke ???
he never faced ovett in 1500
nor ran koblenz meet where scott ran 3'31.9
undefeated only counts if facing best guys on their best days
all hugely hammered by time or intrinsic value of extra distance run or suicidal opening pace
pathetic era upto '80 for synthetic track
i hugely, hugely dread to think what likes of Ryun / Keino / Kiprotich couda set for 800 & 1500 if they had those '70s tracks + pacers in '60s...
he hammered cruz who went on nearly immediately to run 1'42.4 !!!
cram was in 1'41-low shape in '85
aouita ran ~ 12+ extra on bends !!!
he finished off with 52-high !!!
route-1 that day, with even-pace, etc, aouita that day was
~ 3'26-high !!!
cram beat a guy in 3-26-high shape !!!
is this a joke ???
were you watching this in '85 ???
coe lost all confidence when cram smashed the 1500wr down from 3'30.7 to 3'29.7
coe's best was 3'31.9 !
every grown-up fan in '85 expected cram to hammer coe
the hammering was even worse than expected, considering jog to bell !!!
is this a joke ???
cram was hugely better than coe in '85 or even of '81
he was inferior to aouita in '85 over 1500, but aouita was stoopid runner who didn't draft cram from gun
cram was hugely superior to coe over 800 in '85 compared to coe-'81 & even more superior shape in '86-edinburgh
he failed abysmally at 1500
he refused to run 1500 in koblenz
he wasted opportunity
grown-up fans in '81 were wondering why he was running nonsense mile races, when 3'30 was only barrier left
coe in '81 ducked 1500 races, when 3'30 was only major barrier in the sport, but kept running worthless mile races