I wouldn't advise saving a 26:40s for Diamond League after Rio, as they don't seem to run any 10000m races.
Mo in 7:22 shape now???? Not even close. He struggled to run 7:32 not that long ago and here couldn't win a 3:31 race. El G ran just 7:23 with a 3:26 and 12:50, both faster than Mo's ever run. Of course, you would think Mo could have beaten 12:50 in crushing guys who ran 12:46-7 in past years, but never 7:22.
In my view Kiprop was simply protesting against the bad treatment of his manager and agent and also the many frequent blood doping test that had been targeting him.In a period of two weeks he was tested 4times which is frankly ridiculous. Kiprop simply chose to loose the race,he is in shape and could have ran a fast time.
Wessex wrote:
In my view Kiprop was simply protesting against the bad treatment of his manager and agent and also the many frequent blood doping test that had been targeting him.In a period of two weeks he was tested 4times which is frankly ridiculous. Kiprop simply chose to loose the race,he is in shape and could have ran a fast time.
That clears everything up.
Kiprop chose to protest and lose the race by going out at world record pace and then finishing in 6th. This would make the people in Monaco a little upset since they paid some big appearance money for Kiprop to come run at their race.
I guess Kiprop showed them with his protest 6th place finish.
Ha Ha Ha
Title sounds like they hit all the bars and were too hung over to break 3:30
ukuv wrote:
Red Blood Cells wrote:Tell me how many people in this single race have a faster PR in the 1500 than Farah.
What events is Farah doing at the Olympics? What 1500 runner would choose to do the 5K and 10K if the 1500 was their best event?
I love when people provide evidence against their OWN arguments. Like I said, Farah has the 2nd or 3rd faster PR. Only Kiprop is faster.
The rest of your post is irrelevant. The events he decides to do at the Olympics has little to do with what his best event is. The events he decides to do depends on his best chances to win gold in sit and kick races. That's Farah's #1 concern - to win medals NOT to do his best event and NOT to compete against the best.
Plenty of runners choose their best chance to medal instead of their best event. If you don't know this, then you need to watch the sport more.
3:28 is better than anything Farah has run at other distances.
Please give other examples of this "plenty" of runners.
i agree with you wrote:
i agree with you
Farah has 8 WC and olympic GOLD medals.
i don't care if his pb is a 3:24 1500m world record but a lot of people on this board (i'm guessing most are younger than 24 years old) want times not medals. they'll come around in a few years
those gold medals are worth way more than a world record or a 3:28 PB kiddos
ukuv wrote:I love when people provide evidence against their OWN arguments. Like I said, Farah has the 2nd or 3rd faster PR. Only Kiprop is faster.
The rest of your post is irrelevant. The events he decides to do at the Olympics has little to do with what his best event is. The events he decides to do depends on his best chances to win gold in sit and kick races. That's Farah's #1 concern - to win medals NOT to do his best event and NOT to compete against the best.
Plenty of runners choose their best chance to medal instead of their best event. If you don't know this, then you need to watch the sport more.
3:28 is better than anything Farah has run at other distances.
Disagree, kiddo.
Farah's medals have all been slow races against joke competition. 3:28 is the only time that has ever shown him to be gold-medal class.
What is the best 1500m ever run by a 33 y.o.?
Even Lagat was "only" running 3:32.75 by the time he was 33.
I would not be surprised if Farah got a single age best in that race.
mayfair wrote:
ISBN wrote:I thought you said Kiprop was in 3:26/27 shape Ventolin^3?
He had 54 low, 1:50 pace, company on the 3rd lap, and died terribly. That pace was ideal for a sub 3:30.
I wonder if all the slow times this year are down to increased scrutiny of Aden's and Rosa's athletes!
The pacemakers fell apart from 700-1000m. Kiprop was up so close to Kivuva that he ran right into the back of him when stepped aside at 1020m, stumbled, got overtaken by Iguider, and then his heart wasn't in it as WR was gone.
The man spent the spring destroying his compatriots in training and races, demonstrating he's quite probably in his best shape ever, and he ran 3:26 last year. He's obviously capable of running well under 3:30 again this summer.
Unlike El G, he's not a machine that cranks out sub 3:30 on a weekly basis without it taking a lot out of him mentally and physically.
No sense of an excuse. Kiprop lost no ground and was not affected detrimentally when the pacer got in his way. Just because the WR was gone doesn't mean an elite like that would just give up!
And that 59 third lap should have meant he pulled well clear on the last lap and won easily, IF he were in 3:26 shape. It was clear he couldn't hold on to the pace and slowed dramatically down the back straight.
He is nowhere near 3:26 shape. More like 3:29/3:30
This "joke competition" - that'd be Kamworor, Tanui, Gebremeskel, Merga, Gebrhiwet, Koech, Longosiwa, Kejelcha, Rupp, Ndiku, Soi, Rop, Alamirew, Lagat, Kipkoech, Edris, Karoki and on and on.
He beat the best other 5000 man of his era in 2012 in Gebremeskel. He beat the best other 10000 man of his era in 2015 in Kamworor.
Not his fault that there hasn't been a peak Bekele or Gebrselassie to compete against.
Just because there was once a time with Geb/Komen/Tergat and following that a brief period with Bekele/Cherono/El G/Kipchoge doesn't make this period weak. Those were the historical high points of international track distance running.
Can someone rename this thread already? It doesn't hold up to the strict LRC standards. Pick between these two:
Kiprop and Farah go home DEVASTATED
Kiprop and Farah are DONE
ukuv wrote:
Metric Miler wrote:You said wrong.
Farah is the equal 5th fastest 1500m runner on the scene right now.
He has proven himself time and again to be the best over 5k/10k.
The choice is simple for anyone but a fool.
No, I did not say wrong. You just can't read. In this race, Farah has the 2nd or 3rd fastest PR.
I didn't say he was or wasn't the best over 5k and 10k. You made up that argument. That makes you the fool. What I actually said was that the 1500 is his best event. Only a fool would disagree.
Two great minds battling it out and I get a front row seat.
clued in wrote:
Clue prescriber wrote:You're right. They never ran that fast. Ever.
They were world record holders. Kiprop and Farah, not so much.
Neither cut it at Olympics although at least Bannister retired young.
They might not have been olympic studs, but they always came through when the chips were down
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