I get two take aways from Justin's quote.
1) By him cheating he is ruining other peoples dreams.
2) He says "They'd do whatever it takes to get across the line." In Justin's case, that also mean doping.
I get two take aways from Justin's quote.
1) By him cheating he is ruining other peoples dreams.
2) He says "They'd do whatever it takes to get across the line." In Justin's case, that also mean doping.
I'm sure he really cares what this site or a bunch of fitness joggers think.
It's incredibly disappointing that LetsRun decided to give the QOTD to a convicted doper. Yes, he served his bans and is allowed to compete. But by giving honors, be they QOTDs by a huge running website, or extra attention at USATF media events, or being on the cover of magazines (looking at you T&F News!), etc, these major players in the sport are implicitly saying that doping isn't that big a deal. To really make progress we have to change the general social acceptance, and one very easy step is to stop giving ANY optional accolades to convicted dopers. It's one thing to say they should get a second chance in life - of course they should! It's a far different thing to say that they should get a second chance IN THE SPORT where they have cheated.
You're better than this LetsRun/Brojos. Let this be the last time you celebrate convicted dopers.
coach d wrote:
I'm sure he really cares what this site or a bunch of fitness joggers think.
I know he isn't a fan of this site because the Bojos ask the obvious questions and don't just pander.
runnerforlife86 wrote:
But by giving honors, be they QOTDs by a huge running website, or extra attention at USATF media events, or being on the cover of magazines (looking at you T&F News!)
"huge running website" is an oxymoron. An oxymoran for LRC.
My guess is that the brojos are trying to make a point about Gatlin by posting his "do whatever it takes" quote. They have a strong track record of being tough on dopers, so I would give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.
It's also disappointing that the brojos fuel the "one meet is everything" mentality that has such negative effects on athletes' lives. The OGs never deliver on what they sell, and it's always the athletes who suffer. The time spent on pretending doping is "evil" could be better spent on enlightening athletes to the realities of sports.
Even if people didn't, it was a good quote anyway and I was pressed for time with crappy internet on the plane. I might switch it later in the day.
My guess is that the brojos are trying to make a point about Gatlin by posting his "do whatever it takes" quote. They have a strong track record of being tough on dopers, so I would give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.[/quote]
Agree but it still is never fun to have to see a Gatlin quote like this.
Bill Bronger wrote:
I get two take aways from Justin's quote.
1) By him cheating he is ruining other peoples dreams.
2) He says "They'd do whatever it takes to get across the line." In Justin's case, that also mean doping.
As if any professional athletes really care about what random people on the internet think. They are ALL about the MONEY and the FAME.
I know he cheated, but he's probably one of the most well-spoken USA track and field athletes we have.you can't really argue that. most others are awkward and don't know how to give an interview. he may not be worthy of our trust, but you can tell he knows the sport and really wants to win.if he wasn't a convicted doper, he and felix are by far the most likeable T&F athletes we have here in the statestoo bad i don't like him, because he cheated
Bill Bronger wrote:
I get two take aways from Justin's quote.
1) By him cheating he is ruining other peoples dreams.
2) He says "They'd do whatever it takes to get across the line." In Justin's case, that also mean doping.
Bill Bronger wrote:
coach d wrote:I'm sure he really cares what this site or a bunch of fitness joggers think.
I know he isn't a fan of this site because the Bojos ask the obvious questions and don't just pander.
Except when it's convenient
Good point Soprano. I still don't love it, but highlighting that aspect of the quote does make sense.
And fully agree with "objective dude". Such a shame.
coach d wrote:
I'm sure he really cares what this site or a bunch of fitness joggers think.
Actually, he does.
coach d wrote:
I'm sure he really cares what this site or a bunch of fitness joggers think.
You forgot OLD.
You guys are ridiculous. Gatlin is (and was) no more doped up than most other runners in most events.
I knew you guys were delusional, but I didn't think it was quite this bad.
we're just talking about Gatlin being a doper and the Letsrun QOTD on this thread.we never said anything about any other doped up runners because the thread was very specifically about Justin Gatlin's QOTD.No one is saying anything delusional. You simply decided what you wanted to write before you read everything. Let us know what comments you think are delusional.if the title of the thread was, "there are lots of other dopers worse than Justin Gatlin in Track and Field, and i don't think Gatlin's offense was that bad relative to them, and lots of people are delusional about these topics" then your comment would be relevant.but instead, you just spouted some drivel that has nothing to do with this.
Hdjdjsjskwjebehe wrote:
You guys are ridiculous. Gatlin is (and was) no more doped up than most other runners in most events.
I knew you guys were delusional, but I didn't think it was quite this bad.
coach d wrote:
I'm sure he really cares what this site or a bunch of fitness joggers think.
He does, actually. Hence why he gets so bent out of shape when asked about doping by said fitness joggers.
I would have expected a big time D1 coach to realize that. Then again, maybe that's expecting a bit much considering you hate distance running and distance runners yet routinely visit a website focused on distance running.
I also remember how you used to go on and on about how Tyson Gay couldn't have been doping because he was a member of Project Clean. LOL!
Keep dazzling us with those pearls of wisdom coach.
I know you probably hit the "Post Message" button thinking you had made a clever post, but unfortunately you haven't. You guys celebrate tons of runners who are obvious dopers, on a daily basis. Gatlin is no more dirty than any other athlete in the sport on average. To get upset about him getting coverage, you should be irate about just about any coverage of any runner.
I don't care about Gatlin getting coverage. I'm fine with it actually, and it makes the drama more interesting because of his pastno one is delusional, and no one is trying to be clever. you're sounding like a defensive person.You should realize I don't assume A SINGLE PROFESSIONAL RUNNER i cheer for is clean. NONE. you believe some people on this thread to be delusional (despite no one saying they did or didn't cheer for other runners (dopers) like you insist) where'd that come from, man?sadly, that's the state of the sport but it makes things much easier.