why are parents in Asia stressing enormous importance on academics?

study harder

high academic scores are seen as a way to get ahead by this group. Things like sports and arts aren't, although there can be exceptions like music, table tennis, running in Japan, etc. There is no concept of the well rounded individual who is good, not great in many areas. In several southeast Asian countries like China, Vietnam, Thailand, and Laos the market has not been kind and you either are successful or you're set up for a life of struggle. There historically hasn't been much of a social safety net in these countries.

Where are the superior outcomes?

Government?

Innovation?

Consumer brands?

Art?

Creativity?

General happiness?

Asia is a miserable place. No Asian parent would allow their child to drop out of Harvard to found Facebook or Microsoft.

Where is the next Asian Jimi Hendrix?

Asia makes a fetish if scores and grades, but it's graduates cannot lead and solve basic problems of life and business.

What a load of ridiculous generalizations bordering on xenophobic. Asia is NOT a miserable place to live. I grew up in two countries in Asia and both were beautiful, fun, interesting places where both academics and creativity were nurtured. In Hong Kong, I spent loads of time studying, but was first introduced to tennis (and made the tennis team at my school) as well as track and field. And my English class introduced me to so many wonderful books I ended up wanting to explore creative writing.

grewupinasia wrote:

What a load of ridiculous generalizations bordering on xenophobic. Asia is NOT a miserable place to live. I grew up in two countries in Asia and both were beautiful, fun, interesting places where both academics and creativity were nurtured. In Hong Kong, I spent loads of time studying, but was first introduced to tennis (and made the tennis team at my school) as well as track and field. And my English class introduced me to so many wonderful books I ended up wanting to explore creative writing.

you are from hong kong?

Hong Kong? You may want to give a tip of the hat to the British influence for some of your success. You may have had the best of both worlds there.

grewupinasia wrote:

What a load of ridiculous generalizations bordering on xenophobic. Asia is NOT a miserable place to live. I grew up in two countries in Asia and both were beautiful, fun, interesting places where both academics and creativity were nurtured. In Hong Kong, I spent loads of time studying, but was first introduced to tennis (and made the tennis team at my school) as well as track and field. And my English class introduced me to so many wonderful books I ended up wanting to explore creative writing.

are you a typical Chinese into alevel /dse or white kid gaining a place in local university through nonjupas programme?

you must be rich and live in a gaint mansion where costs millions of dollars, an amount enough to buy a large plot of land in US here.

and you never count on overtime job they have to commit without reasonable returns in Hong Kong. Do you still have the time to run many mile per week?

asiangeek wrote:

here in the US, we are lazy and join camps/play all the time during summer.

No, our kids are eating the entire summer and every other waking minute of the day. I hardly ever see kids playing anymore and if they are, they are playing XBOX.

most of your kid you met are real big asxxxxx. they grow up real bulky and still get a good job. why do you still run when you are motivated to lose fat or run to aim at being the next Galen Rupp?

If all this, "Asian Parenting" was such a good thing, then why does Asia continue to be a follower rather than a leader? If it is such a great place, why has the region always experienced net emigration?

Have you every *worked* in Asia? Having to deal w/ the petty nonsense of your colleagues and boss? Working for institutions that are completely aimless and without purpose?

Trumpite wrote:

If all this, "Asian Parenting" was such a good thing, then why does Asia continue to be a follower rather than a leader? If it is such a great place, why has the region always experienced net emigration?

Have you every *worked* in Asia? Having to deal w/ the petty nonsense of your colleagues and boss? Working for institutions that are completely aimless and without purpose?

in asia you have to work through bureaucracy instead of team spirit. everyone was diligent but worked pointlessly.

grewupinasia wrote:

What a load of ridiculous generalizations bordering on xenophobic. Asia is NOT a miserable place to live. I grew up in two countries in Asia and both were beautiful, fun, interesting places where both academics and creativity were nurtured. In Hong Kong, I spent loads of time studying, but was first introduced to tennis (and made the tennis team at my school) as well as track and field. And my English class introduced me to so many wonderful books I ended up wanting to explore creative writing.

True, if you are privileged and live in fortune areas and can turn your conscience off to the atrocities of past and stay out of politics and on the right side of authorities.

But indeed colonialism, post colonialism, Japanese fascism and communism/anti western reactionism caused

Mountains of suffering

And long lasting consequences seen continually in authoritarian statehood, abuses and lawlessness.

Honorable mention to Islam (past) and its disrespect and intolerance of longtime Indo-Hindu-Buddhist heritages in Southeast Asia/East Indies. Especial mention of Islam in recent ages for its unparalleled terrorism, shameless arrogant ideological destruction and disrespect (in ditto areas).

Half of my lineage was self made, rags to riches, in sino-British commerce on the coast of mainland china. My grandfather came to America in the 1930s, as fascist regimes were rising, thanks to Christian missionaries. He returned home and survived the Japanese occupation and Communist terror.

Yes you have a skewed view of things as do many current "middle class" Chinese, tawau near, Hong Kong folk and expatriates in America. They live in willful amnesia of many decades of horror. Many did not make it out alive or unbroken.

Odd that this thread appears this morning. Last night I commented in the "Asian [american women] (mindless) hard workers" thread

Which has since been idiotically deleted

in that thread I bemoan the barbaric and philistine bourgeois instinct favoring academic and gross vocational success and climbing, to the expense of creativity, friendship and moral free thinking. This behavior is not limited to one modern peoples or nation and I have long theorized that such mentalities in societies

(particularly when those societies lack democratic traditions and feature strong entrenched hierarchical traditions)

Contribute heavily to the rise of violent destructive racist totalitarian states, like nazi Germany and imperial japan.

Just think of the motto of the University of Pennsylvania and you'll be in good hands (like all state).

you should be a Cantonese once lived in Hong Kong, right?

Seriously mate? wrote:

asiangeek wrote:

here in the US, we are lazy and join camps/play all the time during summer.

No, our kids are eating the entire summer and every other waking minute of the day. I hardly ever see kids playing anymore and if they are, they are playing XBOX.

However, if you do let your kids play outside, some busybody calls CPS or the cops because they assume either (1) you do not have control of your kids or (2) all kids outside are committing crimes.

Mr. Doritos wrote:

Seriously mate? wrote:

No, our kids are eating the entire summer and every other waking minute of the day. I hardly ever see kids playing anymore and if they are, they are playing XBOX.

However, if you do let your kids play outside, some busybody calls CPS or the cops because they assume either (1) you do not have control of your kids or (2) all kids outside are committing crimes.

no they will be kidnapped by perverts.

asiangeek wrote:

Mr. Doritos wrote:

However, if you do let your kids play outside, some busybody calls CPS or the cops because they assume either (1) you do not have control of your kids or (2) all kids outside are committing crimes.

no they will be kidnapped by perverts.

Because that never happens in Asia, right?