You are now my favorite person on these boards.
You are now my favorite person on these boards.
Delayed for a week. Wow. More time for Nike pressure.
Pretty impossible. think of it this way:
Nike puts forth a bribe - Judge has 2 options...
1. Take bribe and break federal law. He'd spend a significant amount of time in a federal prison if caught.
2. Turn in Nike and get notoriety and respect.
There are certainly variations of this one could come up with, but *almost* no judge would potentially throw their career and lives away for this. Super rare. Plus there is certainly going to be an appeal of this no matter the outcome... so basically no way.
tuner upper wrote:
The cute things about Letsrun is how everyone speaks with TOTAL CERTAINTY as if they known what they're talking about:
"He'll side with Nike."
"Almost certainly Berian can..."
What a bunch of clowns.
Actually, the second one specifically said "Almost", so your use of "TOTAL" seems unnecessary.
Either way, having an opinion and adding to the conversation is "certainly" better than just being an a-hole.
Doc Brown wrote:
tuner upper wrote:What a bunch of clowns.
Says the clown college graduate.
I actually change my answer. It'll have been 180 days of the year some time this week I think. Judge says as of that date Berian can run for whoever he wants. The rest will get sorted out later
You seem confused.
Skip Bounds wrote:
tuner upper wrote:The cute things about Letsrun is how everyone speaks with TOTAL CERTAINTY as if they known what they're talking about:
"He'll side with Nike."
"Almost certainly Berian can..."
What a bunch of clowns.
Actually, the second one specifically said "Almost", so your use of "TOTAL" seems unnecessary.
Either way, having an opinion and adding to the conversation is "certainly" better than just being an a-hole.
Opinions are like a$$sholes; everyone has got one. The only thing worse is uninformed extreme opinions expressed with certainty by know-nothings.
Amazing that the BroJos just figured out that this case has nothing to do with Berian and is all about making sure no one under contract with Nike tries to get out of of their contract before the Olympics
No duh wrote:
Amazing that the BroJos just figured out that this case has nothing to do with Berian and is all about making sure no one under contract with Nike tries to get out of of their contract before the Olympics
Berian is not under contract with Nike. Nike isn't paying him anything.
nwpow wrote:
subject matter wrote:This hearing was on Nike's motion for a temporary injunction barring Berian from competing in a competitor's gear. That's the only thing the judge will rule on today. No ruling on forcing Berian to sign with Nike. No ruling on monetary damages.
Didn't say he'd force him to wear NIKE, just that he would side with their lawyers. Once the 180 days is up he'll be free to sign with whomever. In the meantime the judge will agree with NIKE in that Berian cannot wear their competitor's gear.
Wrong, as soon as he presented Nike with an offer they can match making it a contract. He doesn't have to sign anything. He already signed a contact allowing this.
The only debate is did Nike match, and it's becoming clear they tried to confirm with BB and he gave them the run around. It's a slam dunk case in Nike's favor.
No duh wrote:
Amazing that the BroJos just figured out that this case has nothing to do with Berian and is all about making sure no one under contract with Nike tries to get out of of their contract before the Olympics
Uncontracted wrote:
Berian is not under contract with Nike. Nike isn't paying him anything.
That doesn't change what was said.
Mrr82 wrote:
Wrong, as soon as he presented Nike with an offer they can match making it a contract. He doesn't have to sign anything. He already signed a contact allowing this.
The only debate is did Nike match, and it's becoming clear they tried to confirm with BB and he gave them the run around. It's a slam dunk case in Nike's favor.
Nike did NOT match the contract, and their matching the contract is NOT up to Berian.
So? wrote:
No duh wrote:Amazing that the BroJos just figured out that this case has nothing to do with Berian and is all about making sure no one under contract with Nike tries to get out of of their contract before the Olympics
Uncontracted wrote:
Berian is not under contract with Nike. Nike isn't paying him anything.
That doesn't change what was said.
What contract? None exists. Only a 180 day waiting period which is almost over.
Clothed Runner wrote:
Berian in the trials wrote:Meaning he can compete again (most importantly at the trials).
And he can run in clothes that he chooses. Doesn't have to run naked to make Nike happy. It would be best to avoid NB stuff until the 180 days is up. Maybe he can tape over the logos to be on the safe side.
Send him a LetsRun singlet.
Sososo??? wrote:
So? wrote:That doesn't change what was said.
What contract? None exists. Only a 180 day waiting period which is almost over.
None exists, but Nike is acting like one does.
No duh wrote:
Amazing that the BroJos just figured out that this case has nothing to do with Berian and is all about making sure no one under contract with Nike tries to get out of of their contract before the Olympics
Nope.
Boris had a CLEAR out in an olympic year. All he had to do was wait 180 days, heck he could have even negotiated as long as there was no contract from a 3rd party.
For the longest time, I couldn't figure out why he didn't do that but his deposition made it clear. Hawi was also working the BBTC - NB contract angle at the same time. So he was either trying to get package deal or trying to negotiate the 2 at the same time frame.
Hawi had a clear conflict of interest by trying to work the two angles at the same time. Clearly Boris got burned by this bad advice.
Even if Boris wins, he still had to pay legal fees and missed out on crucial meets in an Olympic year build up. All of this could have been avoided if Hawi hadn't gotten greedy.
Sososo??? wrote:
So? wrote:That doesn't change what was said.
What contract? None exists. Only a 180 day waiting period which is almost over.
1. why are you posting under so many different name.s
2. the 180 is immaterial now. As soon as Nike said they matched the contract was formed and the 180 days was gone.
Mrr82 wrote:
nwpow wrote:Didn't say he'd force him to wear NIKE, just that he would side with their lawyers. Once the 180 days is up he'll be free to sign with whomever. In the meantime the judge will agree with NIKE in that Berian cannot wear their competitor's gear.
Wrong, as soon as he presented Nike with an offer they can match making it a contract. He doesn't have to sign anything. He already signed a contact allowing this.
The only debate is did Nike match, and it's becoming clear they tried to confirm with BB and he gave them the run around. It's a slam dunk case in Nike's favor.
If it was a slam dunk case in anyone's favor the judge wouldn't have waited another week.
Nike said they were matching and then for whatever reason the long form contract didn't match . Nike says they never got clarification on off there were reductions. Merhawi and team say they told them beforehand and the judge mentioned that email today. Emails and texts came out from Merhawi saying he was trying to see what was the best course of action to not sign with Nike after they said they'd match. Nike lawyers want intent to factor in. Is Nike presenting a contract with reductions enough to let Boris not sign?
Untouched today was whether Boris can sit out 6 months even if it's an agreed match.
wejo wrote:
Untouched today was whether Boris can sit out 6 months even if it's an agreed match.
Why are you focusing on this? It makes no sense. it was a match there was a contract, end of story. The contract was for 3 years.
Based on the latest documents it's very clear that Boris needs to get himself a new agent. The agent in my opinion is incompetent and his lack of response to Nike's request for clarification on the reduction issue lead to this mess.
More appalling is now the agent is using crowdfunding to pay for Boris' legal fees. The agent better be paying the legal costs because he screwed up.
AttorneyFart wrote:
wejo wrote:Untouched today was whether Boris can sit out 6 months even if it's an agreed match.
Why are you focusing on this? It makes no sense. it was a match there was a contract, end of story. The contract was for 3 years.
And you know it was a match, how? Did you write the terms? Do you anything about contracts and their structure? I'll answer for you, you don't.