Nijel Amos reportedly a doper - how is this not being treated seriously?

The Champ wrote:

http://www.weekendpost.co.bw/wp-news-details.php?nid=699

"Sources close to the athlete have also revealed that Amos has confessed the incident to them. ’’It appears that he was not prepared, and after receiving the call from WADA notifying him about their intentions he immediately fled to Botswana to avoid embarrassment because it appears he is not sure about his status,’’ one of the sources revealed."

How was this not considered bigger news given the focus on circumstantial evidence involving other athletes?

The article says he has missed three tests. Isn't two the limit?

Depends on the local Regional Anti-Doping Organization. For U.S. and U.K. it's three.IMO Amos is right up there with Makhloufi as a top doper. Plus they seem to be not especially smart (unlike Farah, Lagat, et al). How they are not getting popped I don't know, but it undermines any confidence in the anti-doping effort.

doot doot wrote:

The Champ wrote:http://www.weekendpost.co.bw/wp-news-details.php?nid=699

"Sources close to the athlete have also revealed that Amos has confessed the incident to them. ’’It appears that he was not prepared, and after receiving the call from WADA notifying him about their intentions he immediately fled to Botswana to avoid embarrassment because it appears he is not sure about his status,’’ one of the sources revealed."

How was this not considered bigger news given the focus on circumstantial evidence involving other athletes?

The article says he has missed three tests. Isn't two the limit?

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The Champ wrote:

http://www.weekendpost.co.bw/wp-news-details.php?nid=699

"Sources close to the athlete have also revealed that Amos has confessed the incident to them. ’’It appears that he was not prepared, and after receiving the call from WADA notifying him about their intentions he immediately fled to Botswana to avoid embarrassment because it appears he is not sure about his status,’’ one of the sources revealed."

How was this not considered bigger news given the focus on circumstantial evidence involving other athletes?

Published march of 2015?

The veil shifts back briefly giving you a view of what goes on at the top level.

Most serious fans know this already

Surely missing one test when you've been informed it's going to happen is an automatic ban?

Oh wait....he's from where? Nothing to see here, obviously an innocent mistake.

trollism wrote:

Surely missing one test when you've been informed it's going to happen is an automatic ban?

Oh wait....he's from where? Nothing to see here, obviously an innocent mistake.

Ask John Ngugi how that worked out for him.

I read the article. I don't think the conclusion is automatically that he is "reportedly a doper".

1) WHen it said he's unsure of his status, that could mean a lot of things. Mabye he smoked a joint. He wasn't sure what happened since he missed another test. You seem to imply that it means he knew he would test positive for a performance enhancer. I think there are other explanations.

2) 3 missed tests in a single year results in a violation. I believe it starts over every single year. How ridiculous is that?

3) If you refuse to take a test, then you are suspended. Refusing a single test is different than missing a test.

rojo wrote:

I read the article. I don't think the conclusion is automatically that he is "reportedly a doper".

1) WHen it said he's unsure of his status, that could mean a lot of things. Mabye he smoked a joint. He wasn't sure what happened since he missed another test. You seem to imply that it means he knew he would test positive for a performance enhancer. I think there are other explanations.

2) 3 missed tests in a single year results in a violation. I believe it starts over every single year. How ridiculous is that?

3) If you refuse to take a test, then you are suspended. Refusing a single test is different than missing a test.

But what he did was essentially refusing to take a test. Surely the three missed tests thing counts for random tests, with no prior warning. If you're given a prior warning, not attending should count as a refusal.

rojo wrote:

1) WHen it said he's unsure of his status, that could mean a lot of things. Mabye he smoked a joint. He wasn't sure what happened since he missed another test. You seem to imply that it means he knew he would test positive for a performance enhancer. I think there are other explanations.

Occam's razor.

That's how I interpreted it too. Homie dipped when he was warned they were coming.

rojo wrote:

2) 3 missed tests in a single year results in a violation. I believe it starts over every single year. How ridiculous is that?

12 months.

Missed test in Jun-Dec-Apr would be a ban.

Missed tests in Jun-Dec-Jul would not be a ban.

Missed tests in Jun-Dec-Jul-Nov would be a ban.

Missed tests in Jun-Dec-Jul-Jan would not be a ban.

It used to be 18 months, and the second case would have been a ban. Not anymore.

The Champ wrote:

http://www.weekendpost.co.bw/wp-news-details.php?nid=699

"Sources close to the athlete have also revealed that Amos has confessed the incident to them. ’’It appears that he was not prepared, and after receiving the call from WADA notifying him about their intentions he immediately fled to Botswana to avoid embarrassment because it appears he is not sure about his status,’’ one of the sources revealed."

How was this not considered bigger news given the focus on circumstantial evidence involving other athletes?

Agreed. I think I posted this link on another thread the other day. I can't believe the media hasn't picked up on what seems like a blatant effort to avoid testing.

The other, and more worrying issue however, is the implication that he was for warned about the testers' visit a week or so in advance!?

How is that random? I cannot imagine for one moment that this is legal. It should be looked into by the IAAF immediately.

Is this just an amplified attempt at "not hearing" a doorbell?

Bump!

Did I read that correctly? He was notified "2 weeks in advance of a random test"?

Amos is not a doper because he is African and we never cheat.

This article being from last year proves again that WADA and the IAAF are not at all serious about policing the sport. Montsho was a doper and Amos seems to be one as well, three missed tests and concern that he wouldn't pass:

"It is not the first time the 2012 Olympic silver medalist absconded from the test in fact, Masalila has revealed that it was the third time Amos failed to honor the call, and this time around the agency seems to be ready to crack the whip. Part of the letter states the athlete could suffer consequences.

Sources close to the athlete have also revealed that Amos has confessed the incident to them. ’’It appears that he was not prepared, and after receiving the call from WADA notifying him about their intentions he immediately fled to Botswana to avoid embarrassment because it appears he is not sure about his status,’’ one of the sources revealed.

Masalila has also gone on to say that their efforts to speak to and guide the athlete have proved futile as the 21 year old is ‘ignorant’. “This boy is overwhelmed by childish behavior and this may ruin his future because he is just ignorant and refuses advices.’’"

as pointed out, this article is ancient, well over 1y ole !!!it obviously was no big deal as he has been running this yearthe relevant part is that he is quite clearly no einstein as gleaned from previous articles & probably has intellect of a juvenile low-achiever :

Masalila has also gone on to say that their efforts to speak to and guide the athlete have proved futile as the 21 year old is ‘ignorant’. “This boy is overwhelmed by childish behavior and this may ruin his future because he is just ignorant and refuses advices.’’

following him over the years via the media it was quite obvious he woud get into trouble because of his stoopidity compounded by fact that he doesn't understand that he is stoopid & let alone how stoopid he actually is ( to paraphrase the great steve weinberg )

this is no surprise for a guy who woud probably do well to get a road-sweeping job if he wasn't an elite runner

the suggestion someone made that he was smoking some sh!t & panicked seems possible...