True. I don't play games.
SpyVsSpy wrote:
Your spycraft is horrible.
True. I don't play games.
SpyVsSpy wrote:
Your spycraft is horrible.
The 3 min 15 second video covered the distance from 38.819742N, 90.496883W to 38.822352N, 90.490602W ( or thereabouts from Google Maps ). Straight line distance is just under 2000ft. Closer to 7mph. And then followed by a period of 20 minute miles.
Natty Dread wrote:
If you look last evening's video, Mr. Young is averaging ~20s between utility polls. Utility polls are spaced ~125' apart along highways - in urban environments they are often closer and there is more variance in spacing due to infrastructure (tethers/drops to buildings, driveways, intersections). This would mean Mr. was traveling at 6.25 ft/sec or ~9mph in the video.
I got 4.26 mph but I could be a little off
RY runs for donuts wrote:Natty Dread wrote:Your math is way off, 6.25ft/sec is like 4.25 MPH.
If you look last evening's video, Mr. Young is averaging ~20s between utility polls. Utility polls are spaced ~125' apart along highways - in urban environments they are often closer and there is more variance in spacing due to infrastructure (tethers/drops to buildings, driveways, intersections). This would mean Mr. was traveling at 6.25 ft/sec or ~9mph in the video.
Not a bad effort at the end of a 40 - 50 mile day, but it looked to be a show for the camera and Mr. Young was having far more difficulty with the pace than the fellow pushing/carrying the camera in-front of him. It makes it difficult to believe he held that pace (or better) for the first 2 - 3 weeks of the attempt.
You just earnestly reply to these threads from your mom's basement couch.
all ultra runners are cheaters wrote:SpyVsSpy wrote:True. I don't play games.
Your spycraft is horrible.
Yeah you are a little off, it is more like 4.26136 MPH, don't want to short change his valiant effort.
numbers game wrote:RY runs for donuts wrote:I got 4.26 mph but I could be a little offNatty Dread wrote:Your math is way off, 6.25ft/sec is like 4.25 MPH.
If you look last evening's video, Mr. Young is averaging ~20s between utility polls. Utility polls are spaced ~125' apart along highways - in urban environments they are often closer and there is more variance in spacing due to infrastructure (tethers/drops to buildings, driveways, intersections). This would mean Mr. was traveling at 6.25 ft/sec or ~9mph in the video.
Not a bad effort at the end of a 40 - 50 mile day, but it looked to be a show for the camera and Mr. Young was having far more difficulty with the pace than the fellow pushing/carrying the camera in-front of him. It makes it difficult to believe he held that pace (or better) for the first 2 - 3 weeks of the attempt.
If he is then it won't be recognized because he's not meeting Guinness standards:
arealpersson wrote:
I know not everyone is that enamoured with Guinness but their standards are the ones Rob is using to verify his run. .
The Scot wrote:
There are some guidelines on the Guiness records site for submitting an application for this record, here are some extracts I found interesting.
"Witness statements are statements of authentication from independent* individuals who verify all
relevant details of a record attempt. At attempts where Guinness World Records representatives are
not present, these witnesses are essentially the eyes and ears of our Records Management Team. They
are tasked with observing the entire record attempt, confirming whether all Guinness World Records
guidelines have been followed, and providing a detailed account to us of precisely what took place.
Without this independent verification, it is impossible for us to approve your record attempt.
*In a select few cases, it may not be possible for witnesses to be completely independent, especially in the case of certain medical
records. Please consult your Records Manager or your Specific Guidelines to determine if this applies to your record attempt.
What does “independent†mean?
An independent witness is an individual who is neither affiliated with nor related to the individual or
group attempting the record, the record organisers, participants, venue, or any persons involved with
staging the event, nor should these individuals have anything to gain from the outcome of the attempt.
The witnesses must also be independent of one another, except in those cases where officials from a
specific professional body are required to verify the record, e.g. a national sporting organisation."
http://www.guinnessworldrecord...412531.pdf
I find it hard to believe that either the current attempt or previous ones actually had such a witness?
You are correct ... I made a simple, but significant error.
RY runs for donuts wrote:Natty Dread wrote:Your math is way off, 6.25ft/sec is like 4.25 MPH.
If you look last evening's video, Mr. Young is averaging ~20s between utility polls. Utility polls are spaced ~125' apart along highways - in urban environments they are often closer and there is more variance in spacing due to infrastructure (tethers/drops to buildings, driveways, intersections). This would mean Mr. was traveling at 6.25 ft/sec or ~9mph in the video.
Not a bad effort at the end of a 40 - 50 mile day, but it looked to be a show for the camera and Mr. Young was having far more difficulty with the pace than the fellow pushing/carrying the camera in-front of him. It makes it difficult to believe he held that pace (or better) for the first 2 - 3 weeks of the attempt.
I have read they are closer to 180' between each, which would make that closer to a 6.1 mph pace, seems more reasonable given his stride.
Natty Dread wrote:RY runs for donuts wrote:You are correct ... I made a simple, but significant error.Natty Dread wrote:Your math is way off, 6.25ft/sec is like 4.25 MPH.
If you look last evening's video, Mr. Young is averaging ~20s between utility polls. Utility polls are spaced ~125' apart along highways - in urban environments they are often closer and there is more variance in spacing due to infrastructure (tethers/drops to buildings, driveways, intersections). This would mean Mr. was traveling at 6.25 ft/sec or ~9mph in the video.
Not a bad effort at the end of a 40 - 50 mile day, but it looked to be a show for the camera and Mr. Young was having far more difficulty with the pace than the fellow pushing/carrying the camera in-front of him. It makes it difficult to believe he held that pace (or better) for the first 2 - 3 weeks of the attempt.
I was off preparing dinner for the family when it occurred to me I inadvertently (and carelessly) flipped the numerator and denominator when I went to convert from ft/sec to miles/hour. I figured folks would be all over it before I returned.
Yes ... 3600/5280 makes for about 4.25 mph and not 9mph (as would be the case when I multiplied by 5280/3600).
Now I need to go back and count sidewalk sections between the utility polls because 4.25 mph seems far to slow for the amount of effort on Mr. Young's face.
That would seem more plausible than 4.5mph (which should have been my answer, rather than 9mph) based on utility polls being 125' apart.
Robs Opentracker wrote:Natty Dread wrote:The 3 min 15 second video covered the distance from 38.819742N, 90.496883W to 38.822352N, 90.490602W ( or thereabouts from Google Maps ). Straight line distance is just under 2000ft. Closer to 7mph. And then followed by a period of 20 minute miles.
If you look last evening's video, Mr. Young is averaging ~20s between utility polls. Utility polls are spaced ~125' apart along highways - in urban environments they are often closer and there is more variance in spacing due to infrastructure (tethers/drops to buildings, driveways, intersections). This would mean Mr. was traveling at 6.25 ft/sec or ~9mph in the video.
Fair point. I take back what I wrote. I still don't think it is a gigantic smoking gun.
ThunderThighs wrote:
If he is only running at night, that would mean only running 6 hours a day for the 60+ miles each day he was doing. Which is impossible. This is the spring and summer when nights are short.
He would have to run more than half his hours in direct sunlight and have much more of a tan than we see in his pictures.
That may be the case, where there is less concern for ice & snow load, perhaps they do space them further in Missouri - I probably should have checked. Years ago, when we were tethering fibre, the polls here spaced at 40 - 50m (for wooden polls).
RY runs for donuts wrote:
I have read they are closer to 180' between each, which would make that closer to a 6.1 mph pace, seems more reasonable given his stride.