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Raysism wrote:

SteelTownRunner wrote:

Raysism wrote:
It's been said elsewhere and above, but the absolute bare minimum evidence for this endeavor would be GPS data off of a running watch. This is 2016 -- I can see second-by-second evidence of my friends' easy runs on Strava -- so how is it that we're not going to be able to see evidence of a transcontinental world record?

The absence of this evidence is evidence of something.

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There is no way to get true evidence. To make a monumental claim, the burden of proof is upon them. All a GPS shows is that someone (perhaps other than RY) ran (or transported) the GPS for whatever distance at whatever pace. The best way to earn trust of doubters, is, [shocker] to earn their trust, by

a) not making bogus record claims like longest run w/o sleep
b) bringing as much evidence to the table as possible
c) not be combative with those asking innocent and reasonable questions
d) show up to a proper race and put up a decent performance. There are many multi-day races around the world where he can prove his mettle should he choose to do so.

I didn't say a GPS watch would be "true" evidence -- it's just the bare minimum.

But he could come pretty close to proving it if he were fully engaged with Strava -- all we'd have to do is send someone out there to see what's going on, and then compare it to the Strava record. The guy who set the world record for most miles biked in a year last year did it all on Strava, and people came out and rode with him.

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SteelTownRunner wrote:

Zombie wrote:
I doubt that any of his wins were achieved with even locally competitive times. He says his marathon PR is 2:41 on his website - how many marathons are won at 2:41+ in the UK these days?

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No need to take away from your argument. Yes, let's say his PR is 2:41. He *may* not need a faster marathon PR to be an excellent multi-day runner. A 4hr marathon pace in the course of a mutliday is blazing, but of course, 26-27 miles per day ain't a multi-day; it's a stage race. It's also quite possible that with specificity in training for the marathon, he'd be faster. I happen to agree with you, but don't say that his PR is evidence of faulty claims when it seems reasonable. Not every sub 2:20 marathoner is a good 24hr or multiday runner (eg, Don Ritchie), and some 3hr marathoners are stellar for 48hrs + (eg, Traci Falbo, yet to crack 3 in the marathon, but has run ~150 for 24hr, 244 for 48hrs).

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1 2 3 green wrote:

SteelTownRunner wrote:

Zombie wrote:
I doubt that any of his wins were achieved with even locally competitive times. He says his marathon PR is 2:41 on his website - how many marathons are won at 2:41+ in the UK these days?

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No need to take away from your argument. Yes, let's say his PR is 2:41. He *may* not need a faster marathon PR to be an excellent multi-day runner. A 4hr marathon pace in the course of a mutliday is blazing, but of course, 26-27 miles per day ain't a multi-day; it's a stage race. It's also quite possible that with specificity in training for the marathon, he'd be faster. I happen to agree with you, but don't say that his PR is evidence of faulty claims when it seems reasonable. Not every sub 2:20 marathoner is a good 24hr or multiday runner (eg, Don Ritchie), and some 3hr marathoners are stellar for 48hrs + (eg, Traci Falbo, yet to crack 3 in the marathon, but has run ~150 for 24hr, 244 for 48hrs).

His PRs listed dont match up though.

A talented ultra runner (that he claims to be) with a 30:47 10k and 68 Half should give you a marathon faster than 2:41 regardless of specificity of training.

Another odd thing, his 5k pr is listed as 15:56. Slower than his 10k pace.

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SteelTownRunner wrote:

Zombie wrote:
I doubt that any of his wins were achieved with even locally competitive times. He says his marathon PR is 2:41 on his website - how many marathons are won at 2:41+ in the UK these days?

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No need to take away from your argument. Yes, let's say his PR is 2:41. He *may* not need a faster marathon PR to be an excellent multi-day runner. A 4hr marathon pace in the course of a mutliday is blazing, but of course, 26-27 miles per day ain't a multi-day; it's a stage race. It's also quite possible that with specificity in training for the marathon, he'd be faster. I happen to agree with you, but don't say that his PR is evidence of faulty claims when it seems reasonable. Not every sub 2:20 marathoner is a good 24hr or multiday runner (eg, Don Ritchie), and some 3hr marathoners are stellar for 48hrs + (eg, Traci Falbo, yet to crack 3 in the marathon, but has run ~150 for 24hr, 244 for 48hrs).

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Zombie wrote:
I doubt that any of his wins were achieved with even locally competitive times. He says his marathon PR is 2:41 on his website - how many marathons are won at 2:41+ in the UK these days?

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Zombie wrote:
Wow, no joke. Quite a lot. Nevermind then. Although the name "Robert Young" is not well represented in those lists.

Thanks for the nice link.

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George Miller wrote:
When you watch the first video the campervan isnt even moving. This suggests that they arent cheating. Both videos are pretty poor and very unfair on Rob and the crew. Crawl back into your hole and stay there.

getting their stories straight wrote:
Any indication the team is aware of this thread?

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TroLLminator wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/spo...ahead.html

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