It's on Now wrote:
Here is my interest in the RY affair: I'm still miffed at his PR of 350
miles in 75 hours which is superior to my 329 at ATY short loop with
bountiful aid stations. I'll extend this offer to him --a thousand dollars
(or equivalent pounds) if he can beat me in 72 hours at a time and course
of his choosing after this event is done. My wager money will come out of
my own pocket and I'm doing it for myself not the kids. I win I pocket
it--for profit. RY wins he can do what he wants with it.
I am most anxious to offer another $1000 dollars into the pot. I would love to witness it and gladly pay the $1000. God forgive me I love this sport. I have a banker friend who I am sure would hold this prize money. Don
Read the most recent (long) fb statement that accompanied their release of the CCTV video showing RY/crackhead walking past the car wash. Maybe I misinterpreted it, but it seems like they're now using it to explain that Rob was still well behind the RV when Asher tried to find him at 2am.
Not sure what you're referring to. The surveillance video and the Asher encounter were several hours apart. Have they said that Rob was well behind the RV again when the Asher encounter happened, which was several hours later than the video?
Their stories have changed and don't make any sense, but I didn't catch that change if they said it.
For a narcissist, this means nothing, signifies nothing. You think Mike Rossi is bothered by the "much worse angle"? Stealing and cheating is justified, the victim card one play away.
pride comes before the fall wrote:
A word to the wise: come clean now. It will get much worse in the coming weeks and months.
Rob may never publicly release his TomTom gps data. He's not obligated to if he is only interested in the Guiness record. But for most people the issue here is that releasing this data for public review is extremely simple (would take less effort than the alternative measures they have taken such as posting a bunch of photos of summary data), and if this data appeared valid could likely bring this whole thing to a quick close. So people wonder why he would not choose that course of action if the data is legit. Proves nothing though.
- Rob won't release his gps data - well as far as I know he hasn't claimed to have beaten the record yet, so not sure why that is a problem.
- But if he releases it at the end it might have been doctored - google is your friend. It doesn't take much to detect doctored Strava data and Tomtom even harder to fake. I'm sure there will be a queue of LRC members happy to oblige on the technical side there.
What we found is that Rob placed 3rd in an age group triathlon with the name European Long Course Championship, but that this was a race with no selection criteria or qualification standards. All he needed to do to enter way pay his own way into the race. He finished with a time that was significantly slower (1 hour in an 8 hour race) than the top 6 finishers age 35-45. So no, this wasn't a lie, but people felt it was an exaggerated accomplishment that indicated a tendency to stretch the truth in order to inflate his image. The same people who reported his results on that forum were joking about how no one runs that race so they should all enter to become "European Champions".
- But he has lied about stuff before so he must be lying now, like that bronze medal in triathlon in 2004. Oh someone's found something on a 2004 forum putting Rob in 3rd place in those championships - yeah but it's on a forum so you can't trust that (yes, someone actually said that)
As people have said, Rob self-proclaimed that he was a poor runner in his younger triathlon days. A sub-31 10k would not be considered poor running for a triathlete. When a 29:07 10k split was run in an olympic triathlon, many people questioned whether or not the course had been measured short. McMillan predicts that for someone with 30:47 10k ability, they should be able to run about a 2:25 marathon, and that 5:47 pace should be about their 40-Mile race pace. Given Rob's talents appear to lie in very long distances, I would expect him to be near these predicted paces at long distances. Observing Rob running a single 5:47 mile should not be taken as a reasonable indication that he ever had 30:47 10k ability. It's still a long way off.
- Well what about his PRs - no way he's done that. Well recently reported running 5:47 mile by a well respected figure, and that after running best part of 2000 miles (even if you exclude the hours sitting in a jacuzzi in the RV) So if he maintained that pace it would give him a sub 36minute 10k. Maybe a little less inconceivable that at some point in his past, maybe ten years ago, training for that distance he might have hit 5 minutes under that. I'm sure he can let us know, but maybe after finishing this thing.
You're 100% right about this.
pride comes before the fall wrote:JB1983 wrote:That was Mike Rossi's attitude towards Letsrun as well. In his mind, we were just "12 skinny little girls", posting under various handles. Try googling "Mike Rossi" now and see what this site has done to the man's reputation. Letsrun also took down Kip Litton and exposed Paul Ryan as having lied about his marathon time.
I also agree with Laz: I wouldn't release any information to the lets run crowd either. After all the name calling and such: Let 'em stew.
this right here, people on here seem to think they matter... when they are no one.
Letsrun didn't destroy Mike Rossi because he cheated in a marathon. Carl Price was a serial cheater, outed by this forum, and his thread died down quickly, and without much fuss because he manned up and admitted that he did something stupid. Mike Rossi and Kip Litton were crucified because they couldn't bring themselves to publicly admit to making a mistake and chose instead to attack and threaten those who dared question their running abilities.
This thread is still in its initial research phase, where posters are gathering and analyzing all of the evidence. The next phase will begin when one of the brojos likely writes an article, detailing all of the evidence that Robert Young has embellished and lied about some of his past achievements and could not have run the times that he did on the first half of his trip. There may be a large monetary challenge, in support of a children's charity, for Robert Young to hold sub-6 minute per mile pace for 40 miles, or something similar.
When Wejo published his article on Rossi, many other media sources took notice and followed up with articles critical of Rossi, culminating with him being named Philadelphia's biggest loser of 2015 in a year-end article.
Robert Young and his team don't know what they're in for if they underestimate this forum. Their pathetic excuses are not going to stand up to scrutiny once all of the evidence, along with their contradictions, is synthesized into a well-written article that gets picked up by other media sources. At that point Robert and team will not only have to face the fact that they cheated, they will also have to own up to the fact that they lied to all of their supporters, making them look like fools.
A word to the wise: come clean now. It will get much worse in the coming weeks and months.
I wondered the same thing. The twitter post below on that account states that Cheryl doesn't think RY is actually running this whole thing.
The First Man to Jump the English Channel
TroLLminator wrote:THAT WAS PERHAPS THE MOST IMPORTANT POST OF THIS THREAD
Talk about following the money... I became even more suspicious when I realized who was in Rob's RV. I think Rob is not only delusional about his running abilities (so much that he embellishes it to the Nth degree) but I also think he's being used by these people.
What are today's numbers? wrote:
How many miles did Rob run today?
Interesting. Then it's fascinating that she doesn't think RY is actually running all the miles.
British Girl wrote:
She's a member of Dirtbag Runners group - that includes Vanessa, Shacky, Pat Sweeney, Maria Walton and a whole lot more. All vocal supporters of RY, they were running with him on the Run Across America Gig
I drove by them during this time frame, and they were filming with a crew (possibly ESPN; matches their timeline anyway). They were not making any progress during that time. There shouldn't be GPS data for that time unless he left his watch running or something.
Guys, I would really like to nail down this section as we have a lot of information about it, but I've run into some issues.
The issue I'm having is that there appears to be a gap in the RV GPS check-ins just prior to this time period - there are no check ins between June 4, 15:53:43 CST and June 4, 22:02:58 CST, which is located in the same spot. The RV appears to have stopped for a sleep break at June 4, 15:17:51, where a few more check in points keep it stationary before this gap in coverage. However, there are apparently TomTom GPS files covering 14.73 miles at an average pace of 22:50 min / mile over this same time window (June 4 15:31 to June 4, 21:11).
What am I missing? I was trying to correlate the next 2 TomTom GPS files after this batch to this timeline when I noticed this. Are the timestamps on the TomTom files just totally off? We may need to correlate RV sleep breaks to gaps in TomTom file coverage to address this.
"No! This not like running 12:28 for the 5K. This is just some fastest known time for some stunt, lacking rigorous rules or monitoring."
just-a-running-fan-34 wrote:elephino wrote:No! This not like running 12:28 for the 5K. This is just some fastest known time for some stunt, lacking rigorous rules or monitoring.
You do realize he's claiming to be setting an all-time record and is not just a random e-statter on a message board, right?
If I say on a message board that I've run an 11 minute 5k, that's different than if I'm trying to get official recognition for a world record, don't you think? But I guess it's your problem if you don't believe my world record 5k, not mine.
Although there might be a space in here for some sort of cutting tongue-in-cheek mention of those Chinese womens'mid-distance records from semi-mythical Chinese races.
Hang on there buddy, jog and walk...some even hobby jog and walk.
Just Another Fake Farce wrote:
So called ultra runners run and walk