I say Tyson knocks him out
I say Tyson knocks him out
Ali RopeADopes him, wears him out and takes him down.
Ali.
Ali's repartee gets Tyson into a frenzy, Tyson unloads bomb after bomb, Ali covers and dances, Tyson fades like a 400m man in the last 50m, Ali unleashes a flurry, Tyson goes down. Eight rounds. A fight I would have like to seen, I'll say that.
No way in hell Tyson beats Ali.
Ali's ability to take a punch -- or a dozen punches -- was one of his less appreciated abilities. Since Ali almost certainly wins if he survives the first four or five rounds, and his superior size, skills, and movement would become increasingly evident with every round, I'm somewhat inclined to give him the edge, but I do think that Tyson has been unduly criticized as merely a little guy who couldn't stand up to the best. When he was a young man, he was ferocious. Those first couple of rounds would be painful for any opponent.
Joe Frazier wrote:
I say Tyson knocks him out
by the way i was thinking about this very topic today.
I'd say the same. Tyson knock out in the fourth round.
Foreman was a bigger version of Tyson and we saw how that went for Foreman.
In their primes Ali is the best heavyweight of all time. Tyson in his prime is top 5....taking his whole career...maybe top 10.
Alan
Joe Frazier wrote:
I say Tyson knocks him out
Buster Douglas beat Tyson in his prime. Ali over Tyson, easily. George Foreman back in the day, was like Tyson. Foreman had unreal punching power, a knockout machine and heavily favored to beat Ali. However, Ali did the "rope a dope", Foreman ran out of gas, and Ali won.
Had Tyson kept using the skills and strategy that got him to the top he would have gone undefeated.
After Spinks he fired everyone and got lazy. People forget how good Spinks was. He was a great technical fighter and that alone should have carried him into the mid rounds. But, Tyson freaking retired him, literally.
Alan
I think a lot of folks underestimate Tyson since his latter years he didn't fight as well. In his peak years, he was a different guy, and a very different fighter.
At his peak, I doubt many guys could stand up to that. Ali, maybe. It'd likely just depend on the day.
Tyson in his prime defeats anyone.
0bi wrote:
Tyson in his prime defeats anyone.
Nope. As I said before, Buster Douglas beat him in his prime. George Foreman and "Smokin'" Joe Frazier would have beat him.
No, Douglas beat a Tyson who had already went away from the training, skills and strategy that got him to the top.
Alan
Tyson in his prime would not be able to land a clean punch on Ali in his prime. But "toe-to-toe" there is no question Tyson win in a KO.
Tyson fired Rooney, his trainer under Cus D'Amato, right before the Spinks fight. Don King wanted a bunch of "yes men" around so he could make buckets of $$$$.
Alan
Tyson would kill him.
I saw what Foreman, Frazier, etc. did to Ali "in his prime."
We're talking about prime years.
Tyson was walking death.
Runningart2004 wrote:
No, Douglas beat a Tyson who had already went away from the training, skills and strategy that got him to the top.
Alan
Tyson was undefeated and undisputed Heavyweight champion coming into that Buster Douglas fight. Douglas was a 42-1 underdog, according to the Vegas betting line. Tyson was just 23 years old on Feb 11, 1990. He was at his peak. If he trained badly or used poor strategy, that's on him. He lost to Douglas in his prime. I saw that fight on PPV and still have the videotape.
Neither Foreman nor Frazier fought Ali in his prime. He was Casius Clay in his prime.
Alan
You aren't the only one who saw it on PPV. The Tyson hype was at an all-time high, but he was past prime.
8FE wrote:
Tyson would kill him.
I saw what Foreman, Frazier, etc. did to Ali "in his prime."
We're talking about prime years.
Tyson was walking death.
And Ali would have got inside Tyson's head. Ali was quicker, taller, had a longer reach, and would have done danced around the ring and playfully taunted Tyson. That rope a dope move, would have worn out Tyson just like it did to Foreman.