USA 25K Champs - Ward Looks Solid

How do you justify this title? Pretty misleading to start a race thread implying a different winner than actual.

What did ritz say about ward?

This race needs

An Elite athlete coordinator.

Obviously not a real deep field.

His name is Greg Meyer. Maybe you've heard of him? Had some other names that scratched, including Abdi. Calling that field weak is laughable.

Great race!

What is the point of a 25km championship.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

What is the point of a 25km championship.

To determine the fastest runner at a distance of 25 kilometers.

hunterco88 wrote:

His name is Greg Meyer. Maybe you\'ve heard of him? Had some other names that scratched, including Abdi. Calling that field weak is laughable.

Proved my point Abdi has been done for 3 years. He would of added nothing.

Just because Greg was a good runner doesn\'t mean he is good at recruiting athletes.

Why no Ritz? Please don\'t tell me he will be running on the track because that ship has sailed. A February Trials should have made this the best field ever. Why no Desi who is a car ride away? I can name 10 runners that are not running track that would have been better than the 5th place finisher today.

This race is another example of "mailing it in". Greg sits back and waits for the phone to ring. He doesn't chase athletes. He thinks he is above this.

I predict that next year Arciniaga and Cabada are back. It's easy to predict. Low hanging fruit that have been good at this race a decade ago.

Greg did a wonderful job with Reebok.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

What is the point of a 25km championship.

Yes.

Tripler wrote:

You suck at writing subject lines.

Seriously go to hell.

this comment is ridiculously unnecessary

Elites needed wrote:

hunterco88 wrote:

His name is Greg Meyer. Maybe you've heard of him? Had some other names that scratched, including Abdi. Calling that field weak is laughable.

Proved my point Abdi has been done for 3 years. He would of added nothing.

Just because Greg was a good runner doesn't mean he is good at recruiting athletes.

Why no Ritz? Please don't tell me he will be running on the track because that ship has sailed. A February Trials should have made this the best field ever. Why no Desi who is a car ride away? I can name 10 runners that are not running track that would have been better than the 5th place finisher today.

Would OF added nothing? Ftard.

Weak field or not, my training partner was Masters champ. Does he get to refer to himself as a Masters national champion now? I told him "no", but he insists that he can. What say you, LRC? (Before people start in with bashing: Yes, he is aware that no top masters showed up)

Was it the official Masters 25k Championships? If not, then no. Just like someone who won the 60-64 age group or whatever can't say they are the national champion for that age group because it wasn't the age group Nationals.

The top master's runner at Columbus a couple weeks back isn't the masters national champion because their championships are later on this year.

162430 wrote:

Weak field or not, my training partner was Masters champ. Does he get to refer to himself as a Masters national champion now? I told him "no", but he insists that he can. What say you, LRC? (Before people start in with bashing: Yes, he is aware that no top masters showed up)

Yeah, was it listed as Masters Championship race, or just overall? They aren't necessarily held concurrently.

Let's say it was the masters 25K championship. If your friend walked around saying, "I'm the National Masters Champ" he would be disingenuous at best. Saying "I won the Masters 25K title in 2016" would be fine. He can't race those that didn't show up. It's really no different than Landry. He isn't the best American 25K runner but he won the race today and he has the title.

SouthernFriedRealist wrote:

Was it the official Masters 25k Championships? If not, then no. Just like someone who won the 60-64 age group or whatever can't say they are the national champion for that age group because it wasn't the age group Nationals.

The top master's runner at Columbus a couple weeks back isn't the masters national champion because their championships are later on this year.

Good point. I just checked the USATF calendar and there is no official Masters Championships for 25k. They have 5, 8, 10, and 15k plus HM, but no 20k or 25k. To be clear - he would never try to refer to himself as National Champ in seriousness or in public, but when he tries to pull that crap on our run this afternoon I will remind him: You are not the Masters national champ. You were the Masters champ at the 25k National Championships. BIG difference. Haha.

Thanks for the response.

Elites needed wrote:

hunterco88 wrote:

His name is Greg Meyer. Maybe you've heard of him? Had some other names that scratched, including Abdi. Calling that field weak is laughable.

Proved my point Abdi has been done for 3 years. He would of added nothing.

Just because Greg was a good runner doesn't mean he is good at recruiting athletes.

Why no Ritz? Please don't tell me he will be running on the track because that ship has sailed. A February Trials should have made this the best field ever. Why no Desi who is a car ride away? I can name 10 runners that are not running track that would have been better than the 5th place finisher today.

If you don't like the job Meyer is doing for this race you should contact the Fifth Third Bank River Run race director and offer your services. If you can get those "10 runners that are not running track that would have been better than the 5th place finisher today" I'm sure the race would love to have you helping get those runners to Grand Rapids.

This has got to be a challenging race to recruit for. If you're one of the more competitive marathon racers, you either did the Trials or maybe Boston as your big spring event (depends on the year). Maybe you're waiting for Grandma's Marathon, coming up in less than a month. If you did the Trials and didn't make it, a lot of those runners probably took some time off hardcore training, typical big event let down. Maybe they're ready to start high level racing again like you say. If you're a 5k/10k guy a 25k is outside what you're looking to focus on. And the prize money, while good up top ($7K), drops off quickly. 4th place is $1000.

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