7th to 1st.
This kid... D A M N
7th to 1st.
This kid... D A M N
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Hunter just ran the second fastest DMR anchor leg in Penn history to nip La Salle at the line. Couldn't have timed it more perfectly (or thrillingly)
saw it live, if he's doing this off of little to no speed work... he could get Webb's record
Umm, ever heard of a split? Do tell.
4:00.7
Sayer of 3:54 wrote:
4:00.7
It's a relay. The way he ran it, though, is what I found amazing. in a normal race, smart pacing, worth ~3:55. Webb's record is Under Threat
lapdog wrote:
Sayer of 3:54 wrote:4:00.7
It's a relay. The way he ran it, though, is what I found amazing. in a normal race, smart pacing, worth ~3:55. Webb's record is Under Threat
Yeah didn't he run the first lap in like 56? Incredible.
lapdog wrote:
Sayer of 3:54 wrote:4:00.7
It's a relay. The way he ran it, though, is what I found amazing. in a normal race, smart pacing, worth ~3:55. Webb's record is Under Threat
I don't think you can shave 7 seconds off his time (he only ran a 1600 today) purely based on a different setting.
Who cares. That was an unbelievable performance, and I think his greatest race ever. He's now a 3-time Penn Relays champion, made up 9 seconds on one of the top-5 runners--and probably the best kicker--in the nation in 1400 meters, and then out kicked him in the most thrilling fashion. Like Jim Ryun and Alan Webb, that pedigree will become legendary.
3 years ago, Loudon Valley's best runner ran 4:40 in the 1600. Now, they're the national champions in the DMR. That's some great coaching by the Hunters.
Nice how you left out tinman.
but... wrote:
3 years ago, Loudon Valley's best runner ran 4:40 in the 1600. Now, they're the national champions in the DMR. That's some great coaching by the Hunters.
Tinman has done fantastic things for Drew Hunter, and I understand he heavily influenced the Hunters in their running and style of coaching. But Tinman isn't personally coaching the whole Loudon Valley team, just Hunter. And the team itself has gotten exceptionally better over the past three years. Not at all a shot at Tinman; just an acknowledgement of good coaching.
but... wrote:
I don't think you can shave 7 seconds off his time (he only ran a 1600 today) purely based on a different setting.
Ahem, Webb shaved over six seconds off his prior best time; an indoor 3:59.8.
but... wrote:
I don't think you can shave 7 seconds off his time (he only ran a 1600 today) purely based on a different setting.
He went out in 56, 3:44 pace.
When the time comes to run Pre, he will be finely tuned (Tinman knows how to peak) and will be surrounded by the world's best. He's a smart racer and will run the ideal race for him. Much better shape, the magic of Pre, the world's best runners, and not going out suicidally fast, could give him a 3:53
but... wrote:
Tinman has done fantastic things for Drew Hunter, and I understand he heavily influenced the Hunters in their running and style of coaching. But Tinman isn't personally coaching the whole Loudon Valley team, just Hunter. And the team itself has gotten exceptionally better over the past three years. Not at all a shot at Tinman; just an acknowledgement of good coaching.
And you think the Hunters are not heavily influenced by tinman??? You do know that he has also been her coach for some time now?
Just Eat It wrote:
but... wrote:Tinman has done fantastic things for Drew Hunter, and I understand he heavily influenced the Hunters in their running and style of coaching. But Tinman isn't personally coaching the whole Loudon Valley team, just Hunter. And the team itself has gotten exceptionally better over the past three years. Not at all a shot at Tinman; just an acknowledgement of good coaching.
And you think the Hunters are not heavily influenced by tinman??? You do know that he has also been her coach for some time now?
What the heck do you think I just wrote? I literally said what you're saying. I'm not at all sure why you're attacking me when what I said was:
1. Hunter ran his best race ever.
2. Loudon Valley has seen a resurgence under great coaching, with Tinman presumably as the grandfather coach.
Perhaps you can point out in the original post where you mention tinman?
but... wrote:
lapdog wrote:It's a relay. The way he ran it, though, is what I found amazing. in a normal race, smart pacing, worth ~3:55. Webb's record is Under Threat
I don't think you can shave 7 seconds off his time (he only ran a 1600 today) purely based on a different setting.
Who cares. That was an unbelievable performance, and I think his greatest race ever. He's now a 3-time Penn Relays champion, made up 9 seconds on one of the top-5 runners--and probably the best kicker--in the nation in 1400 meters, and then out kicked him in the most thrilling fashion. Like Jim Ryun and Alan Webb, that pedigree will become legendary.
3 years ago, Loudon Valley's best runner ran 4:40 in the 1600. Now, they're the national champions in the DMR. That's some great coaching by the Hunters.
Does anyone have an FAT photo?? I gotta see just how close it was
Just Eat It wrote:
Perhaps you can point out in the original post where you mention tinman?
but... wrote:I don't think you can shave 7 seconds off his time (he only ran a 1600 today) purely based on a different setting.
Who cares. That was an unbelievable performance, and I think his greatest race ever. He's now a 3-time Penn Relays champion, made up 9 seconds on one of the top-5 runners--and probably the best kicker--in the nation in 1400 meters, and then out kicked him in the most thrilling fashion. Like Jim Ryun and Alan Webb, that pedigree will become legendary.
3 years ago, Loudon Valley's best runner ran 4:40 in the 1600. Now, they're the national champions in the DMR. That's some great coaching by the Hunters.
Is Tinman the personal coach of Loudon Valley? When you accomplish something, does everyone congratulate you or your parents? This stupid argument shouldn't be taking up half this thread. We're in agreement. Hunter is amazing. The Hunters are good coaches, because the rest of the team is great too. And Tinman is a great personal coach to Hunter, and coached Joan Hunter and strongly influenced her style of coaching. Great. Now can we move on and stop derailing the thread?
lapdog wrote:
Sayer of 3:54 wrote:4:00.7
It's a relay. The way he ran it, though, is what I found amazing. in a normal race, smart pacing, worth ~3:55. Webb's record is Under Threat
How does a 4:00.7 1600m split w/ people to pull you along the whole way translate to a 3:55 for the mile? In any situation?
