Millions of women re-tweet the #womancard and believe women make 21% less because of gender

Where I work women are also paid equally.

But that is definitely not the case everywhere.

women make less because they opt for careers that allow them to do less stressful work, work fewer hours, or have more flexibility in their work schedules

Pay is not the only factor to consider in a job.

It's like comparing a job that makes $40k a year for 40 hours/week, and a job that makes $50k/year for 50 hours/week, and the first job complaining that the second job makes more for "the same work."

The 20% is definitely misleading as an across the board look at women's earnings v. men's earnings is too complicated.

But even when you look at women working the exact same job as men for the exact same amount of time, they earn less. Usually those numbers come out 5-8%.

It's actually 1-2% no idea where you pulled 5-8% from, unless you're only focusing on your niche field or something.

too many statistics wrote:

The 20% is definitely misleading as an across the board look at women's earnings v. men's earnings is too complicated.

But even when you look at women working the exact same job as men for the exact same amount of time, they earn less. Usually those numbers come out 5-8%.

They should spend more time being friendly around the dick. Can improve the trajectory of their career immensely.

There are pay issues based on gender, but I cannot stand the never ending statements that imply that women, across the board are paid less than men. It simply isn't the case. I have seen some articles supporting this claim by comparing completely different jobs like IT managers vs. human resource managers and then implying pay differences are related to gender.

Any union worker (teachers, nurses, government workers etc. etc.) aren't paid less for the exact same job. I've know many private school teachers too. They are not paid less than their male counterparts. Women working minimum wage jobs are not paid less than men in the same jobs. Commission based employees are not uniformly paid less for being a woman. In fact, in some areas like residential real estate, medical/drug sales, being a woman can actually be a positive. I have friends that are CPAs, attorneys, etc. I've never seen or heard anything about a pay gap at their offices.

I am all for identifying legitimate cases of gender based pay discrepancies, but we need to end this false view that implies that every, or even most, women out there are working for 20% less than men doing the same thing. I'm not seeing it.

canspo wrote:

I am all for identifying legitimate cases of gender based pay discrepancies, but we need to end this false view that implies that every, or even most, women out there are working for 20% less than men doing the same thing. I'm not seeing it.

You must be a republican. Why do you hate women so much? How dare you disagree with the idea of a gender pay gap. Bernie and Hilary said it so it must be true. Neither of them would ever tell a lie!

I make a lot less than my women coworkers.

Of course, I should have seen that coming when I accepted a job at a strip club.

Let's suppose women do make less when "doing the same work", which is of course false. So being a woman is a disadvantage in earning potential.

Big deal. You're also at a natural earning disadvantage if you are a redhead, are short, are bald, etc.

Did Kerry make 20% more than Hillary when he took over as SoS? If Hillary gets to the White House, will she take a 20% cut from what Obama gets? Like jobs, equal expectations= same pay.

jamin wrote:

Let's suppose women do make less when "doing the same work", which is of course false. So being a woman is a disadvantage in earning potential.

Big deal. You're also at a natural earning disadvantage if you are a redhead, are short, are bald, etc.

Yep. Fat, bald, short, unattractive... all hugely disadvantaged. Why don't they get hashtag movements? Too subjective a label to have a interest group? does social victimhood require being on one side of a binary classification? gay/straight, man/woman, Black/white?

Women and men are paid the same in my workplace. It's easier to be a victim so they all hop on the social media bandwagon. Sad truth.

women are less likely to negotiate offers, and also less likely to take risks.

= lesser pay.

it's not like they are getting offered less because they are women. it's their choice to accept less pay

Come on OP it's 2016. Everyone is a victim.

In some industries, it's not 20% less, it's 90% less.

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/07/amanda-seyfried-pay-gap

Unequal pay in Hollywood was the biggest issue at this year's Oscars. Even a big star like Jennifer Lawrence with no less of a track record was paid less than her male costars in American Hustle.

Les wrote:

In some industries, it's not 20% less, it's 90% less.

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/07/amanda-seyfried-pay-gap

Unequal pay in Hollywood was the biggest issue at this year's Oscars. Even a big star like Jennifer Lawrence with no less of a track record was paid less than her male costars in American Hustle.

That's a byproduct of the fact that the lead roles in profitable movies are more often male roles. Or if you're looking at lifetime earnings, it's a byproduct of the fact that male actors have longer careers because audiences don't want to see aged women and don't mind seeing aged men (e.g. Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino, Sylvester Stalone in Creed, etc.).

joe jock wrote:

women are less likely to negotiate offers, and also less likely to take risks.

= lesser pay.

it's not like they are getting offered less because they are women. it's their choice to accept less pay

Good point. If women think they're getting offers that are lower than industry standard, they can simply not accept those offers. Companies, being in such dire need of female talent, will be forced to offer higher base salaries to women.

I don't mind watching a normally stupid female actor as long as she's hot. Male actors must be funny and smart though. There are tons of hot babes. Not so many intellectually stimulating men.