Let's hear some stories and examples of slow runners.
I ran at a D2 school and the slowest kid I was ever in a race with was a D1 runner who ran a 33:01 8k. Not sure what his other personal bests were. At that point you gotta either quit or make some serious changes.
I've seen men stumble in around 40 mins for 8k in d3 Maybe they had a bad day or were injured and needed for points. You never know what anyone's story is, but even if you're held up an extra 30 mins waiting for teammates, I wouldn't encourage anyone to quit.
I saw a guy run a 6:52 mile at an indoor meet once. Got lapped by everybody in the field (maybe even twice by the leaders.) There were guys off the track running their warmup jog faster than him.
crazy eights wrote:
I saw a guy run a 6:52 mile at an indoor meet once. Got lapped by everybody in the field (maybe even twice by the leaders.) There were guys off the track running their warmup jog faster than him.
Well of course he got lapped TWICE by the leaders. At 1200m (on a 200m track) he would have come through in about 5:09, at which point he would have done 6 laps to their 8. So unless the heat was REALLY slow many lapped him twice.
edward teach wrote:
I've seen men stumble in around 40 mins for 8k in d3 Maybe they had a bad day or were injured and needed for points. You never know what anyone's story is, but even if you're held up an extra 30 mins waiting for teammates, I wouldn't encourage anyone to quit.
I would not encourage anyone to quit either, but who is finishing an 8k at 55-60 minutes? When I started running I ran my first 10k in 50:XX after just 4 weeks or running ... and I was 11.
What 20 year old is running 10 minute miles and is on the XC team at College? Any College?
Mid to upper 30s is not rare for D3 and community colleges and running clubs
CUNY seems to have quite a few people running between 35 and 45 minutes for 8k.
University of Florida has a few slugs
Go Clemson! wrote:
Mid to upper 30s is not rare for D3 and community colleges and running clubs
Are you responding to me? Because you would have to add 4:00 per mile to a "Mid to upper 30s" 8k time to make it the 55-60 minutes I mentioned.
He said "waiting for your teammates for 30 minutes" as in 30 minutes after you finish in 26-30 minutes ... hence 56-60 minutes. Maybe I misunderstood what he was getting at. I realize that A LOT of schools and people are running 30-35 minutes for 8k ... that is really not slow.
Our team had a few terribly slow guys. These guys couldn't beat the best girls. But they where out pressing the pace on easy runs only to die at the end.
Out of every d1,2,3,naia, and community collge funner I'd bet 38 is average
I honestly wonder if they even train or care
Definitely in D3. I get that d3 is about doing the sport simply because you love it, but at the same time it's still college and its no long the time to just hang out and try something new for the heck of it. I go to a D3 school and I cant tell you how many people i've had on my team who did Cross Country just to get in shape for their APFT tests. We're not an aerobics class and thats not what the team is there for. I think all D3 schools should have standards to make the team. Like atleast 18:00 for 5k for men and 22:00 mins for women. And higher standards for returning athletes cause ive had plenty of teammates who get fatter and slower over their 4 years. If you don't care, why do you run?
2015 NCAA D3 Mid East Regional Results:
http://www.motiontiming.com/node/167
Last place male (8k): 52:21
Last place female (6k): 44:28
trollinginthedeep wrote:
Definitely in D3. I get that d3 is about doing the sport simply because you love it, but at the same time it's still college and its no long the time to just hang out and try something new for the heck of it. I go to a D3 school and I cant tell you how many people i've had on my team who did Cross Country just to get in shape for their APFT tests. We're not an aerobics class and thats not what the team is there for. I think all D3 schools should have standards to make the team. Like atleast 18:00 for 5k for men and 22:00 mins for women. And higher standards for returning athletes cause ive had plenty of teammates who get fatter and slower over their 4 years. If you don't care, why do you run?
I'm sure there are a number of D3 All-Americans who entered college with PRs over 18 and 22.
Lot's of D2 runners. The mentality is just doing it for the love of running.
Sadly, me. Commuted an hour each way to a D-1 school, sometimes by bus, after a lackluster h.s. career and my family was all obese and I was fed the same, so was a porker trying to run with thoroughbreds. Sheesh, why didn't I quit? In retrospect, wasted time and energy shoulda been spent on my studies and getting laid.
Realize that at some point, someone will dig up a remarkable story of a brave handicap soul and a supportive team and college. Just how far does this need to go to boost your ego?
We had a few athletes who were in some sort of special-ed higher education program. They ran XC & Track. The girls actually ran pretty well - top third of the conference (D2). Their brother was not very quick however. He'd run 30-32 min 8k's.
I'm a D2 guy who quit this past February after 3 years. Wasn't worth it running fricken 5 minute miles, 10 minute 3k's, and barely breaking 30 in an 8k. Love doing my own thing now. Exercising, sleeping, reading, studying, partying, and hanging out with friends much more now than I have been.
10/10 would quit again.