Freezing marathoner rescued by bystander; taken home and put in hot bath

Perfect. He should enter Eugene this weekend. He has a full week to rest up. He only needs a sub 2:20 to win.

Otherwise, he should do Seattle or Portland in the fall. Big city marathons with soft fields.

He could win Seattle running sub 2:30. Last year's winner only 2:38.

What else? CIM? That'll be a bit tougher, but still doable for him.

Perfect. He should enter Eugene this weekend. He has a full week to rest up. He only needs a sub 2:20 to win.

Otherwise, he should do Seattle or Portland in the fall. Big city marathons with soft fields.

He could win Seattle running sub 2:30. Last year's winner only 2:38.

What else? CIM? That'll be a bit tougher, but still doable for him.

Perfect. He should enter Eugene this weekend. He has a full week to rest up. He only needs a sub 2:20 to win.

Otherwise, he should do Seattle or Portland in the fall. Big city marathons with soft fields.

He could win Seattle running sub 2:30. Last year's winner only 2:38.

What else? CIM? That'll be a bit tougher, but still doable for him.

Perfect. He should enter Eugene this weekend. He has a full week to rest up. He only needs a sub 2:20 to win.

Otherwise, he should do Seattle or Portland in the fall. Big city marathons with soft fields.

He could win Seattle running sub 2:30. Last year's winner only 2:38.

What else? CIM? That'll be a bit tougher, but still doable for him.

Perfect. He should enter Eugene this weekend. He has a full week to rest up. He only needs a sub 2:20 to win.

Otherwise, he should do Seattle or Portland in the fall. Big city marathons with soft fields.

He could win Seattle running sub 2:30. Last year's winner only 2:38.

What else? CIM? That'll be a bit tougher, but still doable for him.

Did they drag him across the finish line during their rescue, or is that just an American thing?

hope they helped him finish wrote:

Did they drag him across the finish line during their rescue, or is that just an American thing?

It was Yoshiko Sakamoto, an elite Japanese woman. She DNFed at 28k.

this sounds like something they would encounter on Law and Order: SVU.

A "Good Samaritan" comes to the aid of a foreigner who doesn't speak the language, and also because of extreme cold, cannot consent, but is nonetheless abducted and stripped down to bathe at the attacker's home.

Lock this whacko up!

I know. If it weren't a fellow woman, it does sound like it could get creepy. Running a hot bath. But I think we are so cynical, and people in more boring and homogenous places like Zurich where nothing ever happens are really more civic minded.

Someone better call Bekele and warn him about running any races in Zurich.

biskit wrote:

I know. If it weren't a fellow woman, it does sound like it could get creepy. Running a hot bath. But I think we are so cynical, and people in more boring and homogenous places like Zurich where nothing ever happens are really more civic minded.

No, they'd take care of him too. After all, this runner is Japanese, not Swiss. I'm not saying it's better to be a homogenous society but it's just a fact that they have more built-in trust and less suspicion of strangers.

biskit wrote:

I know. If it weren't a fellow woman, it does sound like it could get creepy. Running a hot bath. But I think we are so cynical, and people in more boring and homogenous places like Zurich where nothing ever happens are really more civic minded.

Not every society is based on fear and mistrust.

I was in that race and ran past her at just before half way - she was visibly shivering then and looked in a very bad way. She must be made of tough stuff to have lasted another 8km...

Runnersicle wrote:

hope they helped him finish wrote:

Did they drag him across the finish line during their rescue, or is that just an American thing?

It was Yoshiko Sakamoto, an elite Japanese woman. She DNFed at 28k.

troof be told wrote:

biskit wrote:

I know. If it weren't a fellow woman, it does sound like it could get creepy. Running a hot bath. But I think we are so cynical, and people in more boring and homogenous places like Zurich where nothing ever happens are really more civic minded.

Not every society is based on fear and mistrust.

Not every society consists primarily of responsible, conscientious and hardworking Christians.

"There are certain things you shouldn't do when helping someone with hypothermia because it may make the condition worse:

don't put the cold person into a hot bath

don't massage their limbs

don't use heating lamps

don't give them alcohol to drink

Trying to warm someone up yourself with hot water, massages, heat pads and heat lamps can cause the blood vessels in the arms and legs to open up too quickly.

If this happens, it can lead to a dramatic fall in blood pressure to the vital organs such as the brain, heart, lungs and kidneys, potentially resulting in cardiac arrest and death."

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Hypothermia/Pages/Treatment.aspx

GRV4 wrote:

"There are certain things you shouldn't do when helping someone with hypothermia because it may make the condition worse:

don't put the cold person into a hot bath

don't massage their limbs

don't use heating lamps

don't give them alcohol to drink

Trying to warm someone up yourself with hot water, massages, heat pads and heat lamps can cause the blood vessels in the arms and legs to open up too quickly.

If this happens, it can lead to a dramatic fall in blood pressure to the vital organs such as the brain, heart, lungs and kidneys, potentially resulting in cardiac arrest and death."

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Hypothermia/Pages/Treatment.aspx

Where did you read she had hypothermia? I only read that she got really cold.

splendor in the abs wrote:

GRV4 wrote:

"There are certain things you shouldn't do when helping someone with hypothermia because it may make the condition worse:

don't put the cold person into a hot bath

don't massage their limbs

don't use heating lamps

don't give them alcohol to drink

Trying to warm someone up yourself with hot water, massages, heat pads and heat lamps can cause the blood vessels in the arms and legs to open up too quickly.

If this happens, it can lead to a dramatic fall in blood pressure to the vital organs such as the brain, heart, lungs and kidneys, potentially resulting in cardiac arrest and death."

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Hypothermia/Pages/Treatment.aspx

Where did you read she had hypothermia? I only read that she got really cold.

Since you want to make this about reading comprehension, where did you read that I said she had hypothermia? I said no such thing. I have no idea if she did or didn't..

But, most likely, neither did the spectator in question.

I will say that the symptoms she described sound a lot like classic hypothermia:

"I was running really smoothly and starting thinking I could win it, but I realized that I couldn't feel my hands or feet anymore. . . .My vision started going black and I couldn't tell if I was still running. I stopped and started shaking so badly I fell."

Now maybe it was something different given she was running at marathon pace. But given those symptoms, sticking her in a hot bath was a risky choice, even if well-intentioned. Luckily it worked out ok.

So if "don't put the cold person in a hot bath" is on the list of things NOT to do, that means you should put them in a hot bath, right?

Runnersicle wrote:

A crazy story from the Zurich marathon. It was 3 degrees C and snowing:

Umm, 3º C is not particularly cold. The snow may have been falling but it was clearly all just melting on contact with the ground. For plenty of fall marathons in the U.S. that would be considered fine running weather. The only person who gets hypothermia in that weather is someone who didn't dress appropriately. Preparation/coaching fail.