Nate Brannen - 3:55.11

It's faster. 3:55.11(FAT) is superior to 3:55.0(Hand timed)

sick. does he have a girlfriend?

How good was Mark Fountain's run, a guy who is Australian and still young enough to be running in College. It would have been great if he was an eligible athlete. Good on ya Mark, keeping breaking through. Great Job.

what school is he ineligible at? will he run in the ncaa's eventually?

Anyone who has handtimed while Auto timing was happening knows he broke the record.

Anyone who knows the rules and knows that 3:55.0 is faster than 3:55.11 knows he did not break the record.

Good to see Mark Fountain run well, hopefully he can work his way towards world class over the next 2 years.

From a post on Dyestat from the guy from Trackshark:

For events that start and finish at basically the same location, 400 meters and above, a factor of .14 seconds is added to all hand times to get the FAT equivalent. Therefore, the hand timed recording of 3:55.0 by Tony Waldrop in 1974 is equivalent to 3:55.14 and Brannen ran 3:55.11.

For distances that start at a different location then they finish, hurdles & sprints, a factor of .24 seconds is added to all hand times to get the FAT equivalent.

Brannen's time of 3:55.11 (FAT) is the fastest ever recorded electronically.

Tony Waldrop of North Carolina recorded 3:55.0 (hand time) in the mile run in 1974 which was also run on a boarded 160 yard track.

You can argue for both, but IMHO, there should be two categories -- hand time and FAT.

rules guy wrote:

Anyone who knows the rules and knows that 3:55.0 is faster than 3:55.11 knows he did not break the record.

FAT vs handtimed is the construct of track statisticians. There is no official *conversion* except when it pertains to NCAA qualifying procedures. Waldrop will still have the *collegiate record*, records which are not recognized by any governing body anyway.

Remember when 3:55.11 was an NCAA record?

What would he have run with the pogo stick shoes?