Berians win worth 40k. What will contract be?

I had my doubts about his quick rise to success.

But he has the makings of a man able to run well quick. His strong build with quick speed likely means he can get away with not having all the base training.

And he has this awkward demanding presence on himself. I can see that allowing him to emotionally have what it takes to train at the highest level.

I don't see how any thoughts of his doping or not is Germaine to the discussion of his contract worth.

Look at Nike- rumors of doping never stopped them from Regina Jacobs, etc...

He's a WV gold medalist. I hope that's worth at least a 4-yr deal in the 6-figure a year range.

The uniform monopoly on sponsorship has crushed income potential for these athletes. Tough time to be a pro mid-distance runner.

Saladbar 503 wrote:

gdm wrote:

where does the idea come from that rapid improvement is related to doping?

Because it is extremely abnormal to see a 22 yr old PR by 5 seconds in the 800 in one year.

I also think Brenda is suspect. Her training is more intense then some elite males. And she improved a ton, very quickly.

Small group training by themselves, with a husband-coach that has no fall back plan if Brenda doesn't make money.

Why do you think he has no sponsor? You think all the brands are stupid?

Good god this logic. You are arguing for big improvement due to training harder but are using it to support your agenda of doping. Occam's razor buddy, maybe the harder training just produced better results? Also, Brenda has been consistently good for a few years now, bad example to bring in to argue about sudden inexplicable improvement. Why is it so hard to believe that people can experience a clean jump in performance when they go pro?

Not a 800 runner wrote:

No opinion on berian himself. I would make the observation that vast majority of collegiately successful 800 runners max out at the 1:45 high 1:46 low point. This seems to happen regardless of 400 speed, high school pr, etc.

There are dozens of 47.x/ 1:52 high schoolers every year. Very very few of them will ever touch 1:44 much less 1:43. I ran with a guy with 47. / 1:48.x hs prs at one of the premier mid distance programs in the country. He worked his ass off for four years, won a bunch of conference titles, became an all American but never went under 1:46.

Breaking 1:44 takes true wc talent and training. It's unfortunate that questions have to be asked but that's just the nature of the game right now'

Soooooo.

Your 47.xx friend went 1:46 in college.

And you think it is a stretch for a 46.xx HS guy to run 1:43?

kjv wrote:

He can hope to get more than Sowinski ($10k/yr + incentive bonus clauses), but I don't see Berian getting more than $15-30k/year even as World Champion in an "obsure" event. He's not tremendously marketable, very tatted up, but seems like a good guy.

I hope he gets more, but the market right now would say otherwise.

ReSowinski what would you think incentives bonuses look like, Top 5 or 10 US T&F News ranking, making finals at Nats, medal at Nats, Making US teams, making finals/medaling at Worlds/OG High on world performances list/time bonuses.

Do you think finals and bronze on TeamUSA at World Indoors got him more than 40 grade plus prize money.

I assume some money comes with things like Invite to European meets Millrose/DL and more if he medals .

I figured he would be good for 50 grand if he hit normally expected bonuses like final in Nats get some invites to Invitationals top Five US t&fnews list etc.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts

BFD. His wealthy parents support his running.

palatypus wrote:

diacetyl alert wrote:

Coach gets a percentage too, not just the agent.

Are you sure? Is this how it works for most coaches of groups..?

99.9% of coaches don't take a dime!!!!!

Saladbar 503 wrote:

gdm wrote:

where does the idea come from that rapid improvement is related to doping?

Because it is extremely abnormal to see a 22 yr old PR by 5 seconds in the 800 in one year.

I also think Brenda is suspect. Her training is more intense then some elite males. And she improved a ton, very quickly.

Small group training by themselves, with a husband-coach that has no fall back plan if Brenda doesn't make money.

Why do you think he has no sponsor? You think all the brands are stupid?

This is a perfect explanation!

Berian's high school times were in Colorado so altitude must also be considered.

http://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=9220552#/L4