Galen Rupp is FINISHED

I'm fairly sure that there's never actually been a US Marathon Champion who could break 13 or 27 just a few weeks after a Marathon Trials victory/top showing.

Yeah it is me wrote:

Sure Galen is coming off the marathon

I don't think you're showing enough respect to what that means

boomheadshot wrote:

Yeah it is me wrote:

Sure Galen is coming off the marathon

I don't think you're showing enough respect to what that means

I was told in no uncertain terms by the jock sniffers that Galen was JOGGING a good part of the race. Which is it? Was that marathon an incredible effort to defeat a 40 year old man, or was it in fact a fairly pedestrian effort for Galen? Do tell, but please do not try to have it both ways, like perhaps the switch-hitters at NOP do.

I hardly think the US marathon champion is done. Even if you're right and a poor race 4 weeks after his first marathon means he's no longer an elite track runner his dominant performance at the marathon trials showed us that at the very worst he's got a few years of being the top American marathoner in front of him. I hardly think that's FINISHED and it's definitely not sad. quote]Yeah it is me wrote:

Let us be real here. Galen was not even able to run 13:00.00 pace for 3000m on Friday evening. This tells us several things. Remember, this is a guy who once ran a workout after a race in which he ran five times a mile with the last one in 4:02. Here, in a RACE, Galen is barely able to run 3000m at that pace. This is actually getting sad. Sure Galen is coming off the marathon, but to only be able to run your 5000m race pace for 3000m tells me this dude is DONE. How could it be otherwise? Karma is a _ _ _ _ _ and I for one am glad that this cheating punk is done. The sport needs a better ambassador. He and his coach are the kind of people one instinctively finds anathema to the ideals of the sport. Galen will NEVER break 13 or 27 again. Bu bye...[/quote]

Yeah it is me wrote:

boomheadshot wrote:

I don't think you're showing enough respect to what that means

I was told in no uncertain terms by the jock sniffers that Galen was JOGGING a good part of the race. Which is it? Was that marathon an incredible effort to defeat a 40 year old man, or was it in fact a fairly pedestrian effort for Galen? Do tell, but please do not try to have it both ways, like perhaps the switch-hitters at NOP do.

Actually he could have been, but he wasn't at the end. I'm guessing you don't have much experience with this.

Guts man wrote:

Yeah it is me wrote:

I was told in no uncertain terms by the jock sniffers that Galen was JOGGING a good part of the race. Which is it? Was that marathon an incredible effort to defeat a 40 year old man, or was it in fact a fairly pedestrian effort for Galen? Do tell, but please do not try to have it both ways, like perhaps the switch-hitters at NOP do.

Actually he could have been, but he wasn't at the end. I'm guessing you don't have much experience with this.

No, even if he had been jogging a good part of the race, and "wasn't at the end," it would not render him an also-ran in a U.S. 3000m race 4 weeks later. Galen is FINISHED, for all intents and purposes. I do have experience "with this," and I have great respect for the marathon, but I see what has happened here very clearly, and Galen is done as an elite athlete at the international level.

You are correct. Done, as in, "his indoor season is finished."

The "greatest distance runner" in the U.S. has apparently had to go to the well to knock off one 40 year old, and then 4 weeks later he is decisively defeated by a 41 year old. It is kind of sad in a way, but after all, Galen won't be able to even qualify to compete in national championships as a 40 year old. Stick a fork in him as an elite contender internationally.

SPMBLNF!!!! Good to see you've crawled back out of whatever rock you've been hiding under ever since Galen Rupp got the silver in 2012.

Yeah it is me wrote:

The "greatest distance runner" in the U.S. has apparently had to go to the well to knock off one 40 year old, and then 4 weeks later he is decisively defeated by a 41 year old. It is kind of sad in a way, but after all, Galen won't be able to even qualify to compete in national championships as a 40 year old. Stick a fork in him as an elite contender internationally.

I get it. You're being a sh!t stirrer! But just for giggles, it doesn't really matter how fast he ran the Marathon, 26 miles gets deep into the tank. He ran a 7:48 3000 which everyone with any knowledge was wondering if he'd be able to do so soon after a marathon. There is no new information here except that you are not knowledgeable enough to recognize the effort. No matter. All this means is he won't be running indoor anymore this season. But you can still only WISH you had his talent.

Arnold friend wrote:

SPMBLNF!!!! Good to see you've crawled back out of whatever rock you've been hiding under ever since Galen Rupp got the silver in 2012.

He lost that race. There is no winning 2nd place.

I used to criticize Galen Rupp too. But give him his due - he's pretty good, just like Mo Farah. Both of them are usually in the mix when it comes to international racing. I think Galen could place top 30 in the marathon if he works hard.

Certainly a better than average runner, beyond any doubt.

Running 7:48 for 3000 less than a month after winning the marathon trials is insane. He finished only 1 spot behind Jäger, what does that say about him? Seriously though, as others have stated, you seem to be underestimating what a marathon does to you and how long it takes to recover.

The whole "Trying to beat a 40-year old" and "getting beaten by a 41 year old" is incredibly cheap and you should know this. One won Boston not too long ago, the other medalled at the previous world indoors. You're talking 2 world class athletes here. One which he beat comprehensively at the trials, and the other did not have to contend a marathon only 27 days prior to the 3000 indoor championships race.

That said, I do agree as much as that I believe Galen doesn't really have what it takes for 3000 anymore; or 5000/10.000 for that matter. I think he can still win US championships, but internationally he doesn't stack up; he lost too much of his last-400-in-a-race speed. I'm doubtful as to whether he's able to regain that speed.

His marathon trials effort though looked very good. Saying Galen's "Finished" might be true'ish for the shorter distances, but I think he could be a real factor in the marathon.

Pretty sure Nike asked him to go through the motions to sell some $17 tickets, and perhaps some $100 tickets if he was able to cruise to a top-2 spot -- for it's fully-owned subsidiaries USATF and IAAF.

Well...I would take the flip side of that and say the debut marathon is what was insane if anything was. Given the times Rupp has consistently put up for years on the track from 1500M-5000M, 7:48 doesn't strike me as that impressive, given that it was well paced and he apparently didn't display any kick. 7:48 is something he should run out of sheer habit.

Meb let Galen go.

He definitely lost the silver, didn't win it, amirite?

ryan foreman wrote:

Well...I would take the flip side of that and say the debut marathon is what was insane if anything was. Given the times Rupp has consistently put up for years on the track from 1500M-5000M, 7:48 doesn't strike me as that impressive, given that it was well paced and he apparently didn't display any kick. 7:48 is something he should run out of sheer habit.

Pretty sure if he was in the hunt for the win over the last 800 he could have mustered some kick and maybe 7:44 or 7:45 but at that point he was out of it and just finishing out strong. Not jogging in, not stepping off, just trying to get it done asap. You don't usually see sable kiprop or Bekele throwing down a stellar last lap when they're not in contention to win.

I have no love for Galen or AlSal, but you are way way out of line. Not being able to run 5k pace for a 3k is EXACTLY what one would expect after a marathon.