Would someone please tell Ben that he is NOT a 1500m guy...?
Editor's note: This thread was originally titled "Blankenship and 1500." With the news from the post-race interviews that Ben may try and run the 10,000m outdoors we have changed the title. See Ben's
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And you would have beaten Centro by how much?
What about all the guys he beat? Does that mean we only have 2 1500 runners?
Row knows? wrote:
Would someone please tell Ben that he is NOT a 1500m guy...?
It's interesting you said this because Blankenship after the race told us he was either doing the 1500 or the 10k at the Olympic Trials. And he wasn't joking from what we could tell.
Interview here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZoTIS-d5C4All USATF Interviews here:
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2016/03/athletes-speak-post-race-video-interviews-2016-usatf-indoor-track-field-championships/Usatf wrote:
What about all the guys he beat? Does that mean we only have 2 1500 runners?
Hmmmm, today in this race, yes. I'd say the main contenders for that moniker didn't lace them up today: Torrance, Jmac, Leo, Wheating, etc. I see his point. BB just doesn't have that "extra gear". 3:35 isn't going to cut it.
He has NO chance of making the team in the 10k.
If 10k was just about 1500 guys jogging around and kicking them every spare 1500 runner would move up and be Olympic champion. It involves different muscles.
pomin wrote:
If 10k was just about 1500 guys jogging around and kicking them every spare 1500 runner would move up and be Olympic champion. It involves different muscles.
Well no because the best spare 1500 runner will still win. Mo Farah for example.
So he can get mid pack in the 10K...this guy is a joke. Cut your hair and get a job. the hippy act is old.
I like BB but he seems a little lost.
oLD 800M DUDE wrote:
So he can get mid pack in the 10K...this guy is a joke. Cut your hair and get a job. the hippy act is old.
You are an idiot.
And you got the CAPS thing wrong.
I like the guy, but no way is he making the 10,000 team. He at least has an outside chance in the 1500.
Even in a slow tactical race, the pace won't drop much off 28:45 pace. How comfortably can he run at that pace and still have something left for a 2:30 last kilometer?
pomin wrote:
He has NO chance of making the team in the 10k.
If 10k was just about 1500 guys jogging around and kicking them every spare 1500 runner would move up and be Olympic champion. It involves different muscles.
What muscles do you use in a 10k that you don't in a 1500? Also before you respond do not say "I meant muscle fibers" as again muscle fibers used are also the same.
brickrunnin wrote:
What muscles do you use in a 10k that you don't in a 1500?
BB will NOT make the team in the 1500. He has no confidence in his ability to close with Centro, Andrews and Manzano. Those 3 will leave the field behind in the final 400. You need both the physical as well as the mental. It's in BB's head.
This will be Manzano's last Olympics so he will be dialed in. Wheating too goofy and injury prone. Merber not strong enough mentally. Heath - it is not a meaningless race in the mud in January - again, no chance.
When the pressure is on you better be ready to roll with the big boys.
Just like fast half marathoners thinking they have the marathon all figured out. Ben could run 13:15 maybe a little faster, but beyond 5k it would be ugly. He'd be lucky to hang past 8k. You gotta be in the race to win the race, it's not just about who is the fastest miler. He just wouldn't have the necessary strength to grind out that last 3k.
Blank lost to a 3:44, which is simply not a good time.
And...?
Doesn't matter that it was 3:44. Sometimes at US championships it is 3:36 and sometimes 3:50. He got his butt kicked the last 200.
Why not the 5k? Make more sense than just skip all way up to the 10k
Not so fast my friend wrote:
Just like fast half marathoners thinking they have the marathon all figured out. Ben could run 13:15 maybe a little faster, but beyond 5k it would be ugly. He'd be lucky to hang past 8k. You gotta be in the race to win the race, it's not just about who is the fastest miler. He just wouldn't have the necessary strength to grind out that last 3k.
Well, last year (in a perfectly set up race) at Stanford (maybe it was the year before) Centrowitz hopped on the churning out 63/64 for 5k and he held on for a 13:20. If I'm not mistaken, there was no kick or anything like that and he finished in the upper middle pack. Prior to that, his 3k PR was 7:45, which is right where Blankenship's PR is. However, his 1500 PR was 3:30 and his 800 has been down to 1:44, I believe. Blankenship is signigicantly slower in the mile, but (before Centro's latest race) their 3k PR's were about identical (holding 61high/62.00). You'd have to give Blankenship the edge in a 5, and the standard in the 10 is 28:00. After Hassan Mead (and maybe Rupp) who is out there is a "shoe-in" for a berth off a slow pace?
Id like to take credit for this move. I started a thread not that long ago about US 1500 guys moving up to the 10k and putting their speed to use.
I haven't been able to find it but it's out there.