UW-Parkside coach steps down

Parkside doesn't DESERVE Solinsky.

Ballsy words from a Carthage supporter..

VanDenend was a gift to Parkside. He helped bring order back to that program despite being grossly underpaid.

I hope Parkside is blessed with another great coach. But if Chris Solinsky came around do not interpret this as a switch to immediate rounds of cake and ice cream. Chris would run a tight ship.

Why?

He didn't have a choice but to leave. The AD could have stepped in and helped but she just didn't care. The disrespect she has towards the xc and track programs there is ridiculous. It was a very difficult decision for him to make but one that he had to make for him and his family.

Is Parkside BETTER than the D3 but dominant WIAC schools? I can't imagine the state is THAT talented.

Geeze why? Waa he doing illegal things???

There's kind of a pecking order. First, nearly everyone wants to grow up and be a badger.

1. Wisconsin-Madison (DI)

unless if you have deep family ties to Marquette and the money to attend.

2. Marquette (DI)

But after these two schools, sport classification doesn't have much to do with choices for continuing education. Depending on a number of factors including intended major, a given distance runner will follow a similar set of preferences for their backup plans below:

T3. UW-Eau Claire (DIII), UW-La Crosse (DIII), UW-Oshkosh (DIII)

T6. UW-Milwaukee (DI), UW-Parkside (DII)

T8. UW-Platteville (DIII), UW-Stevens Point (DIII)

T10. UW-Stout (DIII), UW-Whitewater (DIII)

And no one really considers UW-Green Bay (DI)

no p on cars wrote:

VanDenend was a gift to Parkside. He helped bring order back to that program despite being grossly underpaid.

How much should one expect to get paid to coach at a DII college? I can't imagine it is too demanding.

person of interests wrote:

There's kind of a pecking order. First, nearly everyone wants to grow up and be a badger.

1. Wisconsin-Madison (DI)

unless if you have deep family ties to Marquette and the money to attend.

2. Marquette (DI)

But after these two schools, sport classification doesn't have much to do with choices for continuing education. Depending on a number of factors including intended major, a given distance runner will follow a similar set of preferences for their backup plans below:

T3. UW-Eau Claire (DIII), UW-La Crosse (DIII), UW-Oshkosh (DIII)

T6. UW-Milwaukee (DI), UW-Parkside (DII)

T8. UW-Platteville (DIII), UW-Stevens Point (DIII)

T10. UW-Stout (DIII), UW-Whitewater (DIII)

And no one really considers UW-Green Bay (DI)

Hah, you honestly think Marquette is the 2nd best track/xc program in the state? Eau Claire would've destroyed Marquette in XC this past season. Marquette wouldn't of won WIAC's in cross country, and likely would lose to La Crosse in track as well. Yeah they throw out a couple scholarships and might have an individual or two that are studs, but as a whole they are no better than 2nd-4th in WIAC xc/track.

That's really interesting. Here in MN the Gophers are supposed to be the best yet you see St. Olaf guys being them head to head in the mile. I feel like the talent that goes to the U gets squandered. Then our D2 schools (SMSU, WSU, UMD, MSU, Bemidji etc.) are decent but can't touch the best MIAC schools. Then you have the UMAC, the athletic armpit of MN sports.

MIAC person wrote:

That's really interesting. Here in MN the Gophers are supposed to be the best yet you see St. Olaf guys being them head to head in the mile. I feel like the talent that goes to the U gets squandered. Then our D2 schools (SMSU, WSU, UMD, MSU, Bemidji etc.) are decent but can't touch the best MIAC schools. Then you have the UMAC, the athletic armpit of MN sports.

Laughable if you think St. Olaf can hang with the Gophers.

marquette lol wrote:

Hah, you honestly think Marquette is the 2nd best track/xc program in the state? Eau Claire would've destroyed Marquette in XC this past season. Marquette wouldn't of won WIAC's in cross country, and likely would lose to La Crosse in track as well. Yeah they throw out a couple scholarships and might have an individual or two that are studs, but as a whole they are no better than 2nd-4th in WIAC xc/track.

Unfortunately, a Marquette degree is worth more than what the WIAC degrees are. Society makes those rules, not this message board.

There are high schools in New York that could beat these colleges in cross country and track.

4:07, 4:08, 4:09 all ran by St Olaf guys early in the season this year, including head to head wins against Gophers. Carleton had a guy run a solo 4:15 on Saturday and a Johnnie ran a 2:09-2:02 negative split mile.

The top MIAC schools import talent, the Gophers waste the locals. When you take into account the academic standards of Olaf, Carelton, it gets pretty sad.

You want a second way to look at it? Wiebke is 12 seconds off the NCAA leading time. He's nearly half a lap behind other D1 runners, so who's to say D3 runners can't hang with him?

Maybe the gophers focus on something other than distance. Why don't you compare the team's across the board? He'll any kid can run distance that's the only reason d3 kids can usually still hang a tad but no other event.

tr-eye wrote:

He didn't have a choice but to leave. The AD could have stepped in and helped but she just didn't care. The disrespect she has towards the xc and track programs there is ridiculous. It was a very difficult decision for him to make but one that he had to make for him and his family.

The AD probably has disrespect for track/xc because it costs a lot of money and the program brings back zero ROI.

Are you insane? It's been proven that only 20-30 NCAA Division I athletic departments are annually in the black--especially if you consider debt servicing on facilities. So your argument for a Division II program is null and void. The $10,000 (200 people at $5.00/person X 10 home games) in ticket sales for men's basketball goes toward a few charter bus rides and hotel stays. It's NOT much money when you consider the average EXPENSE for a football team is $1 million a year in any division.

The REAL money is in non-scholarship kids any school recruits and retains while minimizing expenses. A coach does this by not doing overnight trips outside the NCAA Championships (which are reimbursed). THIS makes Admissions, Financial Aid, and, in turn, your AD happy. Also, keeping a squeaky clean record with the NCAA Compliance and Student Affairs Office.

Curious Kat wrote:

Are you insane? It's been proven that only 20-30 NCAA Division I athletic departments are annually in the black--especially if you consider debt servicing on facilities. So your argument for a Division II program is null and void. The $10,000 (200 people at $5.00/person X 10 home games) in ticket sales for men's basketball goes toward a few charter bus rides and hotel stays. It's NOT much money when you consider the average EXPENSE for a football team is $1 million a year in any division.

The REAL money is in non-scholarship kids any school recruits and retains while minimizing expenses. A coach does this by not doing overnight trips outside the NCAA Championships (which are reimbursed). THIS makes Admissions, Financial Aid, and, in turn, your AD happy. Also, keeping a squeaky clean record with the NCAA Compliance and Student Affairs Office.

Are you insane? No matter what you say, Track & Field offers no ROI for the athletic program.