runsaul wrote:
I'm in Los Angeles and the whole week is going to be in the 80s. Today it might even hit 90. I think it's gonna change the outlook of the race completely. All those training in cold weather are going to be F***ED!
Or at altitude
runsaul wrote:
I'm in Los Angeles and the whole week is going to be in the 80s. Today it might even hit 90. I think it's gonna change the outlook of the race completely. All those training in cold weather are going to be F***ED!
Or at altitude
boomgoesthedynamite wrote:
Should they move the start time to 7:00 a.m. to avoid the heat?
They should have scheduled it for 7:00 from the beginning six months ago. But with it being on national TV and NBC, the chances of them changing the time now are zero.
I assume the scheduling was dictated by NBC wanting it to be on during the afternoon in EST and USATF being willing to schedule it whenever NBC wanted in order to get on TV, which is understandable, but hard on the athletes.
As everyone always says, everyone has to run in the same conditions. However, I think this will hurt the runners who haven't been able to train in heat, who are larger, and who have less marathon experience, and make upsets more likely.
It was a sad joke that the selection race for Beijing 2008 was run
in November, in Central Park. are you kidding me. hot humid August
race selection based on performance in a cool dry November race.
so, yeah, it's good that for Rio they are at least trying to mimic
the conditions. the start should be later, not earlier, and find a place
with higher humidity. do you want to medal in Rio or not? sheesh.
or you want the usual, 9th and 10th
nomadic wrote:
10am start time is so retarded. All about money. Who cares about the runners.
10am is a perfectly reasonable start time for any race. The reason most marathons start so early has more to do with wanting to reopen roads before a certain time of day. With no 6 hour stragglers, a more compact course, and a slight interest of people watching on TV, the trials is the perfect race to have a later start time.
Why do you think many races take place on Sundays or holidays? It has more to do with being able to shut down streets than optimal running performances. The Boston Marathon used to start at noon.
eotbs wrote:
Humidity will be the real killer in Rio.
How humid is it expected to be during the Trials?
very dry
NOAA has the dewpoint at 40, I think
which is very low and comfortable
tasker wrote:
eotbs wrote:Humidity will be the real killer in Rio.
How humid is it expected to be during the Trials?
very dry
NOAA has the dewpoint at 40, I think
which is very low and comfortable
Exactly. If dewpoint is only 40, the so-called "heat" will not be a factor. Surprised Malmo hasn't jumped in and pointed this out.
Dew point or not this is 80 degree weather. Not the most optimal temperature to run 26.2 miles. Most of these guys are training on the east coast in temperatures 30 degree cooler. I'm sure it's gonna change things up later into the race
nomadic wrote:
10am start time is so retarded. All about money. Who cares about the runners.
Both men's and women's marathons start at 9:30 AM. The women's is Sunday Aug. 14, and the men's is Sunday, Aug. 21, the day of the closing ceremonies.
Average highs in Rio in August are mid to upper 70's and average lows are in the mid 60's. Humidity might be a different story, but temperature wise the Olympic marathons will likely be cooler than the Trials.
Obviously nobody knew LA would be in the 80s in mid February. When most of the country is having their winter, LA gets a warm one on the day we select the 3 best marathoner's in the country to represent at the olympic games.
runsaul wrote:
Obviously nobody knew LA would be in the 80s in mid February. When most of the country is having their winter, LA gets a warm one on the day we select the 3 best marathoner's in the country to represent at the olympic games.
True. Other than this week, it has pretty much been in the 50's and 60's here for the past 2 months. Just a random hot week in Feb that happens to be the week of the trials.
Uncle Weatherbee wrote:
Fam is maf wrote: Even if it were hot why do you think it will matter? This is 12 loops so each is way shorter than a whole marathon and everyone has to run them all so it's even.WTF does this even mean?
??? 70 degrees divide by 12= means it will a winter like 5.8 degrees on each loop ???
Post of the day
Hansons have been talking about it for a month. Now that it is here it is a National story.
YUP CA20 said it best. I was running early mornings in sweats and thermal top and this week i've been in shorts and tshirt. Big difference. It should be a great race on Saturday.
oh please wrote:
tasker wrote:very dry
NOAA has the dewpoint at 40, I think
which is very low and comfortable
Exactly. If dewpoint is only 40, the so-called "heat" will not be a factor. Surprised Malmo hasn't jumped in and pointed this out.
The point should be obvious. 70º with low humidity would be great running weather -- if it was early in the morning or late in the evening.
The problem with the marathon trials is the late start. 70º, low humidity will still feel great. It will be seductive. The runners legs will be loose and perfectly conducive to fast runniing. The problem is the high altitude of the Sun, which will be steadily rising during the race. With nothing blocking the direct sunlight the ambient temperature will be much higher than 70º.
I'm out here for the week. Just took a walk down a mile and a half or so of the course. It's freakin' hot here!!! I will hope for some fast times and good performances Saturday, but if it's anything like today I will expect a case of attrition determines who qualifies.
And Sunday, for the regular LA Marathon... oh man even with 6:45am/6:55am starts that could be a hot one!!! I expect the medical crews will be busy Sunday.
Uncle Weatherbee wrote:
Fam is maf wrote: Even if it were hot why do you think it will matter? This is 12 loops so each is way shorter than a whole marathon and everyone has to run them all so it's even.WTF does this even mean?
??? 70 degrees divide by 12= means it will a winter like 5.8 degrees on each loop ???
Can we discuss what this guy means? Might be the funniest thing I've ever read. I think he legitimately thinks that since its 12 loops the temperature is divided by 12....
80 degrees in the concrete jungle with zero cloud cover???? 40% humidity isn't hurting, but isn't really helping much.
Gonna be fun to watch people suffer. But I'd rather see how fast some of these guys could go -- especially rupp -- without an excuse.
Rupp will NOT run the trials in those conditions. Won't back out until Friday so that he can maximize publicity.
World Indoors is important wrote:
Rupp will NOT run the trials in those conditions. Won't back out until Friday so that he can maximize publicity.
You may be right. Rupp at 134 lbs may be too heavy to make the top 3, especially since the high is now going to reach 89 deg. F:
https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/USCA0638:1:USSmaller runners like Meb and Ritz shouldn't have a problem. Meb (126 lb) took 2nd at the Athens olympics, where the starting temp was 80 deg. F, and Ritz (121 lb) took 9th in at the Bejing olympics, where the starting temp was 70 deg. F.
Bring Back the 880 wrote:
nomadic wrote:10am start time is so retarded. All about money. Who cares about the runners.
10am is a perfectly reasonable start time for any race. The reason most marathons start so early has more to do with wanting to reopen roads before a certain time of day. With no 6 hour stragglers, a more compact course, and a slight interest of people watching on TV, the trials is the perfect race to have a later start time.
Why do you think many races take place on Sundays or holidays? It has more to do with being able to shut down streets than optimal running performances. The Boston Marathon used to start at noon.
Not in LA in February. It's unpredictable during that time of the year can easily be 80 degrees. I live in San Diego where it's 80 degrees today and plenty warm by 10am. It's a f%**g ret@rded idea all the way around to start at that time rather than 7am where runners are done by 9:30.