Are "flat-earthers" an actual thing?

putting all the pseudo-science to one side for a second, the single most ludicrous aspect of this supposed theory is the scale of the cover up that would be needed and the number of people complicit in the 'lie' (like most crazy conspiracy theories, in fact). Not a single whistleblower from any official source after all these years. Funny that

I used to belive in the globe earth as a child. But as an adult i learned to question and think for myself. And for a long time i belived the flat earth truth.

But then a globist shared these experiments and told me to try them.

http://www.popsci.com/10-ways-you-can-prove-earth-is-round

I did because i was happy to prove him wrong. But i couldn't explain why his globe tricks kept working

Can you help me debunk his experiments so i can convert him to the flearth knowledge.

puzzled wrote:

putting all the pseudo-science to one side for a second, the single most ludicrous aspect of this supposed theory is the scale of the cover up that would be needed and the number of people complicit in the 'lie' (like most crazy conspiracy theories, in fact). Not a single whistleblower from any official source after all these years. Funny that

Right. All the pilots and ship captains that navigate the globe every day would have to be in on the cover up. Not just NASA. All the other space agencies from Europe, Russia, China. Weather scientists from around the world are all working together to dupe us. Ha ha ha!!! So stupid.

Yet some people, and it's very few, choose to believe internet trolls over common sense, reason and scientific fact. Idiots!!!

Another thing. To respond to Legit Question's "evidence" of water running downhill... Toward the horizon is not downhill. Down is toward the gravitational center of the planet.

How anyone not raised in a cave could believe the Earth is flat is beyond me. Even if it's only a few hundred or few thousand world wide, thats just insane.

how about answering my questions now doggy

...wow wrote:

I don't understand the NASA thing. It wouldn't be merely NASA behind it. It'd be a global secret.

And NASA wasn't founded that long ago. The earth was found to be round long before. Who was the brains behind this secret before? And why would NASA even care if the earth was flat? Wouldn't they explore space regardless if the earth was flat or round?

Honestly, I don't see how a flat earth can even be a reasonable conclusion.

Do you realize how much money that NASA and the airlines collect off this lie? Follow the money here. The ancients made a few miscalculations, and humans do what humans have always done: found a way to monetize it.

I guess it's normal, though, that I often see clouds pass BEHIND the "Moon." LOL.

puzzled wrote:

putting all the pseudo-science to one side for a second, the single most ludicrous aspect of this supposed theory is the scale of the cover up that would be needed and the number of people complicit in the 'lie' (like most crazy conspiracy theories, in fact). Not a single whistleblower from any official source after all these years. Funny that

Wrong.

Matthew Boylan, former NASA operational graphics manager, worked for years creating photo-realistic computer graphics for NASA. Now a vocal Flat-Earther, Boylan claims that NASA’s sole reason for existence is to propagandize the public and promote this false ball-Earth heliocentric worldview.

Originally recruited because of his skills and reputation as a hyper-realist multi-media artist, he started doing projects like photoshopping various lighting and atmospheric effects onto images of Earth, the Moon, Jupiter, Europa, etc. Having proved himself, and wanting to promote him to do more classified work, a room of NASA higher-ups during a party, as a type of initiatory-rite, explained to him and a few others in detail the reality of the Geocentric Flat-Earth model and how they have fooled the entire world

Refusing to be a part of their deception, Boylan cut his ties to NASA, began researching the Flat-Earth for himself, and has recently become a powerful voice on the lecture circuit and the internet exposing NASA and their heliocentric hoax. In his comedic lectures he speaks candidly and eloquently about how simple it is using nothing more than Adobe Photoshop and a video editor to create any and every type of image NASA purports to be “receiving from the Hubble telescope.” He points out how in most ball-Earth videos lazy NASA graphics workers don’t even bother changing cloud structures in ordinary or time-lapse footage; the same shape, color and condition cloud cover often stays completely unchanged for 24 hour periods and longer

Boylan states unequivocally that every picture and video of the ball-Earth, all the Moon/Mars landings, the existence of orbiting satellites, space stations, and all Hubble images are hoaxed. He even quips anecdotes about how NASA officials and astro-nots privy to the Flat-Earth truth would laugh hysterically at the brain-washed zombie public who unquestioningly believe their televisions.

Here is his story:

MEL Rnr wrote:

Another thing. To respond to Legit Question's "evidence" of water running downhill... Toward the horizon is not downhill. Down is toward the gravitational center of the planet.

How anyone not raised in a cave could believe the Earth is flat is beyond me. Even if it's only a few hundred or few thousand world wide, thats just insane.

As mentioned several times, water always seeks its flatness. It is part of the natural physics of water. This fundamental physical property of fluids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense.

If, however, the Earth is a giant wobbly spinning ball, tilted on its vertical axis flying through the Milky Way then it follows that truly flat, consistently level water cannot happen. It would show that the oceans must maintain a certain convexity- which is not observed and never ever happens and more importantly be in direct violation to the physics of water.

Water does not flow uphill, that is impossible and violates physics. As for your "toward the horizon is not downhill'- we agree. The horizon is not curved, it is flat. You must be a closet flat earther, ha!

Legit question wrote:

As mentioned several times, water always seeks its flatness. It is part of the natural physics of water. This fundamental physical property of fluids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense.

This proves that Earth is NOT flat. Otherwise the ocean would have no waves when the wind isn't blowing. With nothing to stir it, the water would find its flatness, as you say. But it never does, there's big waves going all the time.

If, however, the Earth is a giant wobbly spinning ball, tilted on its vertical axis flying through the Milky Way then it follows that truly flat, consistently level water cannot happen.

Which it doesn't, as I pointed out. It flows downhill, which means forward on any curved surface. Indeed, any direction is downhill. That's why there is such a variety of ocean currents and you can often see waves going in several different directions within the same area.

MEL Rnr wrote:

How anyone not raised in a cave could believe the Earth is flat is beyond me. Even if it's only a few hundred or few thousand world wide, thats just insane.

The answer is because they don't. It's a troll. The point of the troll is to convince people that they believe the earth is flat. Then you argue with him incredulously, and he laughs because you now believe he believes the Earth is flat.

I pointed this out ten pages ago. NONE OF THESE PEOPLE REALLY THINK THE EARTH IS FLAT, YOU IDIOTS.

Hi,

You seem to be the only person here not brainwashed by nasa/rothschilds complex and able to think coherently for yourself.

Can you please help me debunk the globalist earth lies my assiciates send to me?

http://www.popsci.com/10-ways-you-can-prove-earth-is-round

I tried really hard but the globist tricks are making it difficult. Please help me debunk these so i can spread the flat earth truth to these sheeple.

Thanks

FLEARTHER

Think for Yourself wrote:

...wow wrote:

I don't understand the NASA thing. It wouldn't be merely NASA behind it. It'd be a global secret.

And NASA wasn't founded that long ago. The earth was found to be round long before. Who was the brains behind this secret before? And why would NASA even care if the earth was flat? Wouldn't they explore space regardless if the earth was flat or round?

Honestly, I don't see how a flat earth can even be a reasonable conclusion.

Do you realize how much money that NASA and the airlines collect off this lie? Follow the money here. The ancients made a few miscalculations, and humans do what humans have always done: found a way to monetize it.

I guess it's normal, though, that I often see clouds pass BEHIND the "Moon." LOL.

Besides the fact that this many people GLOBALLY couldn't reasonably keep this a secret, NASA doesn't benefit at all from this. Either do the airlines. How would a flat earth change anything at all? Airlines wouldn't still need to fly. NASA would still explore space and local planets. How would earth being flat change that fact at all? If anything NASA would get more funding to research our new understanding of the world and solar system. Can you explain exactly how NASA and the airlines is making money off this "lie"?

Truth Flearther wrote:

I used to believe in the globe earth as a child. But as an adult i learned to question and think for myself. And for a long time i belived the flat earth truth.

But then a globist shared these experiments and told me to try them.

http://www.popsci.com/10-ways-you-can-prove-earth-is-round

I did because i was happy to prove him wrong. But i couldn't explain why his globe tricks kept working

Can you help me debunk his experiments so i can convert him to the flearth knowledge.

This is a re-published article from 2008 and it's full of BS. The article should be re-titled: 10 easy ways to not prove a globe and provide false science to the public.

Item #1- The Moon- Focault Pendulum- It is NOT a proof of a spinning Earth. Debunked months ago. Video explanation here:

Lunar eclipses with both the Sun & the Moon in the sky at the same time, should never, never, ever happen on a globe Earth. Yet it has. Explain that, ball believers

Daytime lunar eclipse debunks the ball:

More on the Moon:

Item#2: Ships and the horizon See item 5.

Item#3- Varying Star Constellations (a complete clusterfck by Popular Science)

This is a train wreck.

Perspective is not represented correctly:

a. There are 2 perspectives: one is the yellow man, the other is "you" looking at the photo.

b. The yellow man's perspective is not defined- we have no idea what he's looking at. Up, toward the middle, sideways, etc? Completely ambiguous.

Another issue that Popular Science Deception got wrong:

The horizon is not rising to the eye level of the observer (yellow man) and we know it ALWAYS does.

Perception reality:

Horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer (yellow man).

Item#4:Shadows and Sticks

The flashlight (which represents the Sun) experiment depicted in the video only can convey light rays from a flat edge to a grapefruit (represents Earth), unlike the Sun which emits light rays in every direction. This experiment is already flawed from the get go. The experiment, if done correctly, is performed using a ball light source and used to shine over a flat surface or table or large sheet of paper. Then set up two sticks or two nails- it will replicate the exact results that Eratosthenes observed. A ball earth proof fails here.

Item#5: Seeing Farther from Higher

It is true, you can see farther if higher off the ground. See the flat illustration in item #2. However, the ball argument is another train wreck here.

If you ball earthers can find a picture over land (not over water) that shows trees, buildings, towers or the mountains tilted away from us, part of it would be obscured by the ground, then that would prove a ball. However, this article (see item#2) illustrates the fantasy that an observer can see a tree tilting away from view. Hilarious. This is an argument for a round ball, really???? Show me an actual picture, folks.

We already know that the horizon rises up to eye level. Impossible if the Earth was a ball. The horizon would curve down in all directions in all directions from the observer. There is no noticeable curvature over the water. Ball Earthers can't prove it.

Whenever someone (ball earther) says that a ship disappears over the horizon it's because it must be a curve, however when that ship is viewed again with binoculars or a high zoom camera, then that ball earther will use the argument it is "atmospheric refraction". Ball earthers, you can't have it both ways. Test it out for yourself.

Here is a "do-it-yourself" flat earth experiment:

Item#6: Ride a Plane

Again, this was addressed this several times. You can't see a curve from the window and the horizon is flat & at eye level.

Item#7: Look at Other Planets

Why are other planets round? When you compare amateur footage done with professional grade cameras and compare it to NASA's official images of planets & stars, it's clear that NASA's images are all CGI. Ball shaped planets do not prove a ball Earth.

Iem#8: The Existence of Time zones

Addressed a couple pages ago.

Item#9 The Center of Gravity

It is a theory without proof. I already addressed this topic in this thread.

Item#10 [BImages from Space

Google any images from space such as satellites, planets, etc. It is all CGI, it is all fisheye lens, it is all fake as shit. FAIL

This entire article is one massive trainwreck. Try again.

Show me a picture of a curve over the land with an object tilting backwards. I will wait for your proof.

The point of this troll is to convince people that they believe the earth is flat.

Then you argue with him incredulously, and he laughs because you now believe he believes the Earth is flat.

I pointed this out ten pages ago. NONE OF THESE PEOPLE REALLY THINK THE EARTH IS FLAT, YOU IDIOTS. YOU ARE ALL EMBARRASSING YOURSELVES BY BELIEVING THE TROLL. HOLY CRAP.

you still never addressed my questions.....and i want to see an accurate non distorted EARTH....so say the earth is flat, so far the globe is the only thing that gets all the sizes accurate. so why cant you make a representation of what the EARTH really looks like then in accurate sizes of the continents?

i agree with spencer wrote:

you still never addressed my questions.....and i want to see an accurate non distorted EARTH....so say the earth is flat, so far the globe is the only thing that gets all the sizes accurate. so why cant you make a representation of what the EARTH really looks like then in accurate sizes of the continents?

The point of this troll is to convince people that they believe the earth is flat.

See the post above yours. You are being trolled, and it's truly insane that you believe that he believes the Earth is flat. IT'S A TROLL.

In other news, 2+2=4. But that isn't as obvious as the troll you and a shocking amount of other people are falling for.

try to understand wrote:

MEL Rnr wrote:

How anyone not raised in a cave could believe the Earth is flat is beyond me. Even if it's only a few hundred or few thousand world wide, thats just insane.

The answer is because they don't. It's a troll. The point of the troll is to convince people that they believe the earth is flat. Then you argue with him incredulously, and he laughs because you now believe he believes the Earth is flat.

I pointed this out ten pages ago. NONE OF THESE PEOPLE REALLY THINK THE EARTH IS FLAT, YOU IDIOTS.

Whether you like it or not, flat earth proponents are growing exponentially. There are probably a few on LRC, but are too afraid to admit it. If I were to guess, there are well over a million flat earthers in the USA alone.

You still can't prove a ball, after 10 pages. Science is more than mathematical equations. It also has to be observed, tested and proved. I have pointed many inconsistencies to the ball earth. Instead of getting angry, prove your point. Keep trying, I will be here.

i agree with spencer wrote:

you still never addressed my questions.....and i want to see an accurate non distorted EARTH....so say the earth is flat, so far the globe is the only thing that gets all the sizes accurate. so why cant you make a representation of what the EARTH really looks like then in accurate sizes of the continents?

Tonight.