Remember when "atheist" had a negative connotation?

"The Southern Bapist Convention was created and broke away from northern baptists because he northerns were advocates of ending slavery. The Southern Baptists preached a theology in which slavery was acceptable in which African Christian slaves should obey their Christian masters and would find salvation and paradise in the afterlife."

From the state of the black community right now maybe they should have. They appear to be cursed in some way.

Some Things Are Funny wrote:

Bible and slavery wrote:

When the Scriptures are examined in context it becomes quite clear that God teaches compassion, mercy, equality and justice for all. We are all one race, the human race, in God's eyes.

You mean like when God murdered every man, woman AND CHILD on the face of the Earth with the exception of Noah's family? That kind of compassion and mercy?

Satan wanted to corrupt God’s creation, not just morally, that is easy to do. He wanted to corrupt God’s creation physically. We are all created in God’s image. Before the great flood the fallen angels slept with human women to corrupt their bloodline/DNA (Genesis 6) This was a perversion to the human race in God's eyes. Noah and his family were spared because their bloodline was not mixed and they followed God. The rest of the human race was not only corrupt physically but also spiritually and they hated God.

HeeHawHaw wrote:

"The Southern Bapist Convention was created and broke away from northern baptists because he northerns were advocates of ending slavery. The Southern Baptists preached a theology in which slavery was acceptable in which African Christian slaves should obey their Christian masters and would find salvation and paradise in the afterlife."

From the state of the black community right now maybe they should have. They appear to be cursed in some way.

In similar socioeconomic states, blacks and whites are just about equal in their criminality.

Captain Super Duper Obvious wrote:

DontGetAtheism wrote:

There is obviously an Intelligence at work in the universe that gave birth to stars, planets and the physical laws governing the operation of the same.

No, there really isn't.

So what is it then? An unintelligence.

Bible and slavery wrote:

Some Things Are Funny wrote:

You mean like when God murdered every man, woman AND CHILD on the face of the Earth with the exception of Noah's family? That kind of compassion and mercy?

Satan wanted to corrupt God’s creation, not just morally, that is easy to do. He wanted to corrupt God’s creation physically. We are all created in God’s image. Before the great flood the fallen angels slept with human women to corrupt their bloodline/DNA (Genesis 6) This was a perversion to the human race in God's eyes. Noah and his family were spared because their bloodline was not mixed and they followed God. The rest of the human race was not only corrupt physically but also spiritually and they hated God.

How could Native Americans have hated the God of Abraham?

Sorry, I work for a living...sometimes...

Your posts are simply revisionist. I kinda feel like I am talking to a brick wall. The abolitionist movement was lead by Christians. It is as simple as that.

At the same time, there were Southern Democrats who tried to twist scripture to support slavery. Those people were in the wrong. It does not make scripture wrong.

You have made me tired. I enjoy a good debate, but listening to you repeat things that are simply untrue has grown tiresome, honestly. I am sure you can bait me into responding to another one of your posts, but I hope you don't.

Furthermore, he offspring of this union between human females and the fallen angelic beings were physical giants. These children were not fully human. They were angel-human hybrids known as nephilm. They grew enormous in stature with great intellects and were called “men of renown.”

Some OT Biblical experts have postulated that these giants had physical strength in magnitudes far greater than the average man and intelligence far beyond the most intelligent humans of today or in the past. The mythology of the Titans may be the result of this. Witness the elongated skulls from antiquity, skeletons of giants have been unearthed only to be hidden by the Smithsonian- kind of refutes evolution. What if these ancient giants really existed?

Steve Quayle has done extensive research of giant skeletons and has written a few books on the subject:

http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=88

Where are their fossilized skeletons?

Responding to Wtfunny,

There were Christians and churches that tolerated slavery. But that does not change the fact that Bible-believing Christians formed the majority of the abolitionist movement. Those are the facts.

William Lloyd Garrison, one of the most outspoken leaders of the abolitionist movement and head of the Antislavery Society, was a Bible-believing Christian who tore up the Constitution, calling it (and quoting the Bible) a “covenant with death” and an “agreement with hell” because it permitted slavery. Like many true Christians, he understood that there was no compatibility between living a life for Jesus Christ and the sinful horrors of the African slave trade.

Sloetry in Motion wrote:

Women in Saudi Arabia were recently given the right to vote and run for elected office. The vast majority of those people pushing for this right were Muslims. Does that mean that Islam was somehow responsible? Is women receiving this right due to the teachings of Islam?

Of course not.

Just like the vast majority of the people in the pre-Civil War US were Christian, the vast majority of the people in Saudi Arabia are Muslim. The societal changes in both these cases were due to the push of secular values and went against the traditional teachings of the religions involved. The religions just try to take credit for it after the fact.

I cannot speak for the movement in Saudi Arabia. However, the push for abolition was a direct result of the Second Great Awakening in the early 1800s. A DIRECT RESULT.

Bible and slavery wrote:

Responding to Wtfunny,

There were Christians and churches that tolerated slavery. But that does not change the fact that Bible-believing Christians formed the majority of the abolitionist movement. Those are the facts.

William Lloyd Garrison, one of the most outspoken leaders of the abolitionist movement and head of the Antislavery Society, was a Bible-believing Christian who tore up the Constitution, calling it (and quoting the Bible) a “covenant with death” and an “agreement with hell” because it permitted slavery. Like many true Christians, he understood that there was no compatibility between living a life for Jesus Christ and the sinful horrors of the African slave trade.

Not to mention William Wilberforce led the charge to abolish slavery in the British Empire, motivated by his conversion to Christianity.

Hidden in a government warehouse somewhere. Remember the ending of Raiders of the Lost Ark movie? It's the scene when they boxed up the Ark of the Covenant. Same type of situation, me thinks...

Augusto E. Perez wrote:

Bible and slavery wrote:

Satan wanted to corrupt God’s creation, not just morally, that is easy to do. He wanted to corrupt God’s creation physically. We are all created in God’s image. Before the great flood the fallen angels slept with human women to corrupt their bloodline/DNA (Genesis 6) This was a perversion to the human race in God's eyes. Noah and his family were spared because their bloodline was not mixed and they followed God. The rest of the human race was not only corrupt physically but also spiritually and they hated God.

How could Native Americans have hated the God of Abraham?

They were not hybrid beings. The Native Americans descended from Noah just as we all are.

Sloetry in Motion wrote:

Bible and slavery wrote:

Slavery in ancient Israel was voluntary, not racist and done as a way for a man to provide for his family.

Voluntary slavery......now I've heard it all. I'd say "you can't make this stuff up," but that seems to be exactly what Christians do.

I sincerely feel sorry for you.

More info about giant skeletons.

http://www.genesis6giants.com/index.php?s=388

Bible and slavery wrote:

Augusto E. Perez wrote:

How could Native Americans have hated the God of Abraham?

They were not hybrid beings. The Native Americans descended from Noah just as we all are.

How did they time travel to get over here before the Flood?

BTW we know where Abraham is buried, do you think if we opened it there would be the skeleton of a dude that lived to be 175?

JustSayin wrote:

Captain Super Duper Obvious wrote:

No, there really isn't.

So what is it then? An unintelligence.

No, it's nothing. No divine being of higher (or lower) intellect. The stars and all other celestial bodies (as well as literally every other object as well as space itself) are bound, generated, and "organized" (any somewhat stem-educated person understands the concept of entropy and that the universe is gradually diffusing throughout its ever-expanding region of space until it is dis-organized to the greatest possible extent) by the forces of nature (gravity, electromagnetism, the strong and weak forces).

Bible and slavery wrote:

Some Things Are Funny wrote:

You mean like when God murdered every man, woman AND CHILD on the face of the Earth with the exception of Noah's family? That kind of compassion and mercy?

Satan wanted to corrupt God’s creation, not just morally, that is easy to do. He wanted to corrupt God’s creation physically. We are all created in God’s image. Before the great flood the fallen angels slept with human women to corrupt their bloodline/DNA (Genesis 6) This was a perversion to the human race in God's eyes. Noah and his family were spared because their bloodline was not mixed and they followed God. The rest of the human race was not only corrupt physically but also spiritually and they hated God.

Especially all of those one year olds. They REALLY hated God!

Seriously, if anyone not steeped in the culture of this BS were to read the mental contortions that you (and many others) resort to in order to try to keep your imaginary world intact they simply would not believe you could possibly be serious.

Damned hateful one year olds!

Bible and slavery wrote:

It is the ancient Isralites themselves who were the first victims of brutal, un-Biblical slavery at the hands of the Egyptians, who enslaved them out of racist hatred. This is the closest such thing to African slavery we see in the Bible. And how did God respond to this slavery?

With mercy, as He raised up Moses to lead the Israelites out of slavery and punished Egypt with 10 supernatural plagues, the final one being the death of all their firstborn sons which was the origin of the Passover, still celebrated in Jewish homes today. So the first recorded revolt against racist, oppressive slavery in ancient history was in the Bible and it was led by God.

You are an atheist and will always rage against Christians, God and the Bible, I get it. Have a great day.

Yes indeed it was the ancient Israelites first mentioned in the Old Testament as being "the first victims of brutal, un-Biblical slavery at the hands of the Egyptians." The quoted text are your words.

However and because of the sizable population on earth during and before this time, I've always been curious if the Israelites were the first in-slaved population, or were there other group/s of people/s/tribes that were also in-slaved, but didn't make the cut when the Old Testament was written? I believe that what is written, is true and was done to the Israelites by the Egyptians. However I'm having a hard time believing, knowing how cruel our ancient ancestors could be, that no other tribe/society didn't suffer a similar fate like the Israelites did, before the Israelites did.

It's a shame written history doesn't go back to the dawn of mankind. There are a lot of hidden history/mysteries regarding they very beginning of ourselves that we'll never know and I personally feel it's a darned shame. I'd love to know, maybe or maybe not how things shook out back in the day. Having this knowledge might go a long way explaining why and how humanity does/doesn't get along the way we do today.

Does anybody else ever think/have thoughts along these lines? Or do I need to seek professional help? ;-)