Should The U.S. Split Up?

You mentioned three group: Hard Left, Hard Right, and Moderates. A three-way split is required, no?

I am not sure the geography lends itself to a physical split...

I am also not sure that "each side thinks it is 100% right". I just think each side believes that folks will not follow a moderate. I wouldn't advocate a split at this point; I would advocate a Third Continental Congress to start the dang thing over.

Un Moderate wrote:

You mentioned three group: Hard Left, Hard Right, and Moderates. A three-way split is required, no?

Yes, at least 3 groups, but probably not much more than that. You can't go crazy and try to accommodate every last permutation of political thought.

We should divide up the country just because you don't like the dialogue. Dialogue is the backbone of the nation, always has been. I like Neopolitan ice cream.

AMDA wrote:

We should divide up the country just because you don't like the dialogue. Dialogue is the backbone of the nation, always has been. I like Neopolitan ice cream.

The O.P. seems to be of the opinion that it's gone far beyond just "agree to disagree" positions on issues.

People literally can't co-exist with each other nowadays if their politics differ to any large degree.

I too think our country is forever gone at least the one I once knew. The libs have taken their PC crap so far it's ruined much of our nation. The crazies on the far right don't believe half the shit they spew. It won't be tomorrow but I can see how one day our country fractures. Example, governor of a state who doesn't want refugees calls the National Guard to stop a bus load of Muslims from arriving and the President sends in troops. Neither backs down and shots are fired.

Constitutionally and geographically impossible with current red blue purple state configuration. It would take an actual war to happen. That would be pretty ugly. I wonder if the right wingers would resort to apartheid, and some level of facism. Would not want to live in a land of all liberals either. Give me purple or give me death I guess.

The US Crusaders must destroy Islam in every corner of the world.

AMDA wrote:

I like Neopolitan ice cream.

Neopolitan ice cream is the worst ice cream there is. Hey everybody, lets combine the three blandest flavors and by doing so see if we can make them any blander!

Excellent work wrote:

The libs have taken their PC crap so far it's ruined much of our nation.

Much of our nation is ruined? What the hell are you talking about?

More control are definitely necessary to secure our borders and internal security.

I would Federalize the police, national guard, prisons, military high schools, highway patrols, SWAT teams, military colleges, etc. into the Pentagon and officilly make all civilian airports federal bases.

I would get Congress and the 50 States to change the US Constitution to formally extract the Marines into a 4th branch of government (they are essentially that already) for use only outside of US borders.

Also terminate Posse Comitatus so that the Pentagon can attack threats within US borders.

Our country has been doing fine compared to other developed countries since the recession. The conflicts are social, between educated people and uneducated people. The uneducateds are becoming more of a minority and are trying to compensate by becoming more outspoken. Trump is an example of them going down swinging. In 5 years they'll be a special interst group and we'll look back on this as a non-issue.

I think we can all agree to give Texas back to Mexico.

Trumpeteer wrote:

Our country has been doing fine compared to other developed countries since the recession. The conflicts are social, between educated people and uneducated people. The uneducateds are becoming more of a minority and are trying to compensate by becoming more outspoken. Trump is an example of them going down swinging. In 5 years they'll be a special interst group and we'll look back on this as a non-issue.

Exactly what the thread starter probably meant. Replace Trump's name with Clinton or Sanders and you have just spoken for at least 1/3 of the country.

You'd never understand that though because of your political blinders.

Not So Fast My Friend wrote:

The O.P. seems to be of the opinion that it's gone far beyond just "agree to disagree" positions on issues.

People literally can't co-exist with each other nowadays if their politics differ to any large degree.

People seem to be coexisting fine. Writing angry op-eds is quite a bit different than, say, firing on Fort Sumter.

Calling it like it is wrote:

Not So Fast My Friend wrote:

The O.P. seems to be of the opinion that it's gone far beyond just "agree to disagree" positions on issues.

People literally can't co-exist with each other nowadays if their politics differ to any large degree.

People seem to be coexisting fine. Writing angry op-eds is quite a bit different than, say, firing on Fort Sumter.

Very true, but the level of intolerance and disdain for different viewpoints seems to be increasing over time.

As much as we like to talk about the great divide between red and blue states, the most red states might be 70% red and most states are much closer than that. It's not nearly as divided as we pretend it is.

If you do the split by urban/rural or by county, it is more divided, but you can't split the country that way.

elephino wrote:

As much as we like to talk about the great divide between red and blue states, the most red states might be 70% red and most states are much closer than that. It's not nearly as divided as we pretend it is.

If you do the split by urban/rural or by county, it is more divided, but you can't split the country that way.

Resettlement?