Cheserek's Historic Day - did LRC notice???? Barely after d-throating Cuse

Hate to burst your bubble, but I think everyone is over old man Cheserek.

Syracuse winning was the much bigger surprise. Everyone expected cheserek to win 3 in a row.

He's a man amongst boys. He did what was totally expected even if it had not been done before.

He's the first to win 3 in a row but others have won 3 before. And Cheserek is a year older than most collegians in his class.

When he wins again next year it will really be historic.

reader of the forums 2.0 wrote:

He's the first to win 3 in a row but others have won 3 before. And Cheserek is a year older than most collegians in his class.

When he wins again next year it will really be historic.

Dude is like 25

(At least)

It's not my bubble, it's the state of the sport. If an athlete makes an historic achievement it's a sad day when it isn't celebrated. The cynicism on this site is sickening.

Have a nice night!

I posted another thread "All Hail King Ches," and nobody replied. I sometimes wonder why many even bother to be at Lets Run. Do they hate running so much? Of course there are problems, esp. banned substances, but is there no accomplishment worth honoring? Beyond his many accomplishments on the track & now here, Cheserek seems like such a classy guy. I watched the video after he finished, and I saw him circulating among some of the other runners. He seemed so friendly and genuine in wishing others well. I also know that many posters equate cynicism and smart aleck posts as being "cool," so I do take a lot of what I read with a certain bemusement. However, I do hope that others who genuinely love running can feel free to say a good word or two when warranted, without fear of being chastised.

I am in complete agreement. I am a little disappointed with the fact that there has been almost no coverage of Cheserek's phenomenal performance. I would like to see the Brojo's appreciate this a little more. I love this site, but there needs to be more credit given to ches.

A lot of the disinterest is the way the Oregon coaches have him run. He may be the best ever but they have him sit and kick on lesser opponents while he looks around and smooths out his singlet. Next he'll be running around with textbooks and doing homework while he's out there.

Jus run baby!

invisible history?? wrote:The cynicism on this site is sickening.

Have a nice night!

I think it's more that people were so surprised by Syracuse that it overlooked Cheserek's victory. Everyone expected him to win, it was no surprise.

Did you guys read our race coverage?

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/11/syracuse-colorados-colorado-ncaa-cross-crown-edward-cheserek-makes-history-look-easy/

Check out point #4. We point out that Cheserek's margin of victory was the fifth-largest in meet history -- and it all came in the last 2k!

Did we give Syracuse more coverage? Of course. They hadn't won since 1951 and upset the two-time defending champs in an excellent team race. Cheserek was amazing but he's been amazing for over two years now. His win was not a surprise at all.

yessiree wrote:

I posted another thread "All Hail King Ches," and nobody replied. I sometimes wonder why many even bother to be at Lets Run. Do they hate running so much? Of course there are problems, esp. banned substances, but is there no accomplishment worth honoring? Beyond his many accomplishments on the track & now here, Cheserek seems like such a classy guy. I watched the video after he finished, and I saw him circulating among some of the other runners. He seemed so friendly and genuine in wishing others well. I also know that many posters equate cynicism and smart aleck posts as being "cool," so I do take a lot of what I read with a certain bemusement. However, I do hope that others who genuinely love running can feel free to say a good word or two when warranted, without fear of being chastised.

this....he doesn't just roll outta bed on NCAA championship morning after doing no work for months on end and just win. He's human and deserves proper recognition for what he's accomplished! 3 consecutive NCAA XC championships is incredible and historic.

Jonathan Gault wrote:

Did you guys read our race coverage?

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/11/syracuse-colorados-colorado-ncaa-cross-crown-edward-cheserek-makes-history-look-easy/

Check out point #4. We point out that Cheserek's margin of victory was the fifth-largest in meet history -- and it all came in the last 2k!

Did we give Syracuse more coverage? Of course. They hadn't won since 1951 and upset the two-time defending champs in an excellent team race. Cheserek was amazing but he's been amazing for over two years now. His win was not a surprise at all.

Yes, your response says it all "point #4"!!??!! An athlete accomplishes what NO OTHER ATHLETE IN NCAA XC HISTORY has ever done and it merits the 4th point. No front page picture, no dedicated story to this unprecedented achievement.

All justified by, well he's really good and everyone just expects it (not like it really took any effort or dedication, etc...blah, blah, blah?? seems to be your rationale. really!!!???!!!!) As I stated before, sad day for XC when such an accomplishment is not celebrated, but basically (if barely) acknowledged.

(btw, so it's been awhile for Syracuse, they had a good day - not unprecedented by any means and not an historic margin of victory or even an overwhelming victory but a victory nonetheless to be celebrated. that's totally fine. they deserve acknowledgment and praise but more than someone who's accomplished something for the first time ever????)

Well said.

Ches is historically great, no doubt, and should be recognized and appreciated. But please factor into your thinking: cross country is a team sport.

Ask the individual qualifiers if cross country is a team sport.

yessiree wrote:

I posted another thread "All Hail King Ches," and nobody replied. I sometimes wonder why many even bother to be at Lets Run. Do they hate running so much? Of course there are problems, esp. banned substances, but is there no accomplishment worth honoring? Beyond his many accomplishments on the track & now here, Cheserek seems like such a classy guy. I watched the video after he finished, and I saw him circulating among some of the other runners. He seemed so friendly and genuine in wishing others well. I also know that many posters equate cynicism and smart aleck posts as being "cool," so I do take a lot of what I read with a certain bemusement. However, I do hope that others who genuinely love running can feel free to say a good word or two when warranted, without fear of being chastised.

Concur.

The people behind LR are biased and cynical. Which is reflected in the high percentage of ahole replies.

For those that thin Chez is "25," if you meet him you will quickly realize he is the age that is stated. 22.

Yeah well, can you prove how old he is?

If you lived in a hut in Africa with your parents and siblings in poverty, what would you do to get out of there?

From an old thread.

quote]rojo wrote:

That being said, this summer Letsrun was talking to someone about age cheating in Kenya in a general sense and was told that Cheserek well known in Kenya before coming to the US and the person thought he also was too old to be in HS here.

-LetsRun[/quote]

Invisible history?? wrote:

Jonathan Gault wrote:

Did you guys read our race coverage?

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/11/syracuse-colorados-colorado-ncaa-cross-crown-edward-cheserek-makes-history-look-easy/

Check out point #4. We point out that Cheserek's margin of victory was the fifth-largest in meet history -- and it all came in the last 2k!

Did we give Syracuse more coverage? Of course. They hadn't won since 1951 and upset the two-time defending champs in an excellent team race. Cheserek was amazing but he's been amazing for over two years now. His win was not a surprise at all.

Yes, your response says it all "point #4"!!??!! An athlete accomplishes what NO OTHER ATHLETE IN NCAA XC HISTORY has ever done and it merits the 4th point. No front page picture, no dedicated story to this unprecedented achievement.

Again, three other athletes have won the NCAA XC title 3 times before. Winning it 3 times in a row, while historic in the sense that no one has done it before, is made less special by the aforementioned fact. It's a footnote. Winning it 4 times will be worthy of the praise you think this occasion deserves.