I swear this isn't an April Fool's joke. Details of the retreat can be found here:
“Examining White Privilege: A Retreat for Undergraduate Students Who Self-Identify as Whiteâ€
https://www.uvm.edu/~asc/?Page=whiteid-app.php&SM=eventsmenu.html
At first I was upset by this as it shows colleges are officially a joke, but after some deep thought I've become optimistic.
My main question is does this mean I can have kids self-identify as black so they can benefit from affirmative action.
Jaysis...and I thought that UVM was goofy when I was there 30 years ago...
LOL. Your subject line was so ridiculous sounding that I knew it had to be liberal truth. I'm laughing at the hilarity of it, but also weeping for our children. LOL at loony libs!!
No one is taking these dimwits seriously except for clueless university administrators. Even the New York Times is swatting at these morons.
You remember those kids who all got trophies for just showing up? Guess what, they're in college now.
There will be a swift and fierce reaction to these idiots. Just wait.
I wonder how many at the University of Vermont, both faculty and students, think Mizzou is filled with a bunch of rednecks when, in fact, Mizzou has a higher percentage of both black faculty and students (3.1 & 7.1) than does the U. of Vermont (2.5 & 1.3). See the maps for reference.
Bernie Sanders was a mayor there. It is the capitol of self hating white liberals.
Remember libs, it's okay to use the heater in your Prius. It doesn't make you a bad person.
What's wrong with that?
Will refreshments be provided?
This too shall pass wrote:
No one is taking these dimwits seriously except for clueless university administrators. Even the New York Times is swatting at these morons.
You remember those kids who all got trophies for just showing up? Guess what, they're in college now.
There will be a swift and fierce reaction to these idiots. Just wait.
Oh no. They are just getting started. The momentum behind this is huge. This is NOT going away, and it is going to continue to get worse for a long time.
Who will stop it?
toldyaso wrote:
Will refreshments be provided?
So funny you said that. I was just thinking that this is the same generation who grew up not being able to participate in one single activity without being handed a snack. So yes, I'm certain juice boxes and gluten-free cookies will be provided.
We the People wrote:
toldyaso wrote:Will refreshments be provided?
So funny you said that. I was just thinking that this is the same generation who grew up not being able to participate in one single activity without being handed a snack. So yes, I'm certain juice boxes and gluten-free cookies will be provided.
Can they verify that the juice was made from fruit grown on farms where the workers were treated fairly? Can they?
This is a great day for Weldon and myself. Weldon Johnson shares the name of black civil rights activist James Weldon Johnson:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Weldon_Johnson
I, of course, share the name of the inventor of the blues Robert Johnson:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Johnson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Weldon_Johnson
Given our names are historically associated with great black men, it's obviously always been tough to feel totally comfortable in our own white skin. I never thought society would be advanced enough to allow people to self-identify by race. Even gender seemed like a long shot 5 years ago but progress has been made quickly.
While I don't think I'll have the courage to self-identify as black myself, I'm optimistic that maybe in a generation my children will feel comfortable enough to do so if they are conflicted.
rojo wrote:
This is a great day for Weldon and myself. Weldon Johnson shares the name of black civil rights activist James Weldon Johnson:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Weldon_JohnsonI, of course, share the name of the inventor of the blues Robert Johnson:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Johnsonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Weldon_JohnsonGiven our names are historically associated with great black men, it's obviously always been tough to feel totally comfortable in our own white skin. I never thought society would be advanced enough to allow people to self-identify by race. Even gender seemed like a long shot 5 years ago but progress has been made quickly.
While I don't think I'll have the courage to self-identify as black myself, I'm optimistic that maybe in a generation my children will feel comfortable enough to do so if they are conflicted.
lol.
Of course there is massive white privilege -- although I think it would be better stated that the average white person is not as oppressed by the elites as people of color. And there is a huge difference.
Super privilege is given not so much to the rich as you would think, but rather to the Jewish people as a whole. Here in MA I have seen wealthy Jews totally subvert the justice system to feed their own ambition and protect their anonymity in criminal situations, but it extends right down to the poorest Jew involved in the most heinous violent crimes. Junkies involved in robbery/murder have simply walked due to their protected status. There was a call in the media for the heads of those who sold the deadly heroin to Philip Seymour Hoffman -- until it turned out the pusher was Jewish at which point the narrative changed to it was all on Hoffman, not his supplier; Robert Vineberg did ZERO time in jail. A poor Jewish beggar in the streets of NYC approaches and harasses a famous and rich black baseball player and guess who gets in trouble with the law? You got it. Not the poor beggar but the rich baseballer. Dominique Strauss-Kahn has been a serial rapist for decades and never gets put on trial despite several arrests. Jeffrey Epstein was pimping out under age girls and got such a sweetheart deal that some of his victims are actually suing the DA's office.
libs have lost it wrote:
I swear this isn't an April Fool's joke. Details of the retreat can be found here:
“Examining White Privilege: A Retreat for Undergraduate Students Who Self-Identify as Whiteâ€
https://www.uvm.edu/~asc/?Page=whiteid-app.php&SM=eventsmenu.htmlAt first I was upset by this as it shows colleges are officially a joke, but after some deep thought I've become optimistic.
My main question is does this mean I can have kids self-identify as black so they can benefit from affirmative action.
Your user name is pathetic. Not all liberals are lunatics. I'd actually venture to say that a smaller percentage of liberals are lunatics than conservatives.
That aside, the rest of your post is well written. I particularly appreciated the humor in the last line. There are some liberals who have totally lost their minds.
Note: This type of liberal only seems to exist in the USA, not in the rest of the world. The same goes for the lunatic conservatives we see here these days. The electorate in this country is among the most ignorant ever.
We the People wrote:
toldyaso wrote:Will refreshments be provided?
So funny you said that. I was just thinking that this is the same generation who grew up not being able to participate in one single activity without being handed a snack. So yes, I'm certain juice boxes and gluten-free cookies will be provided.
They should have punch and pie.
More people will come if they think they have punch and pie.
The political left is divided into several categories...-the true lunatics: The sociopathic individuals that live on the narrative of victimization and oppression. -the compassionate 'liberal': This is the majority of 'liberals'. They are blinded by propaganda, and are used to further the 'cause'... even though that 'cause' is completely authoritarian and oppressive in nature. It could also be called 'compassionate naivete', and also, 'useful idiot'.-the 'gamers': this is the portion of leftism that simply refuses to be 'productive'. They use the system as a means of 'support'. And yes, they exist.Yes, there are individuals on the political right who support primitive policies, and can even be labeled as various "phobics", "bigots", etc. But, the level of true sanity, is much higher on the political right. Your final point is quite ironic to me on several fronts. First, I agree with you about "this type of liberal only seems to exist in the USA". Just this morning, I was speaking with a close friend that lives in the Czech Republic. He stated that the gender-identification type issues are gaining ground in Europe, and mainly because of the media exposure in the US. Europe is very leftist, but on that front, the US is further ahead.And last, your final sentence is incredibly ironic. The political left seeks to broaden its voting base by importing and giving amnesty to 10's of millions of under-educated foreigners. Do you not see how this creates an even more "ignorant" electorate?
Post Rater wrote:
Your user name is pathetic. Not all liberals are lunatics. I'd actually venture to say that a smaller percentage of liberals are lunatics than conservatives.
That aside, the rest of your post is well written. I particularly appreciated the humor in the last line. There are some liberals who have totally lost their minds.
Note: This type of liberal only seems to exist in the USA, not in the rest of the world. The same goes for the lunatic conservatives we see here these days. The electorate in this country is among the most ignorant ever.
imnotjohnsmith wrote:
Note: This type of liberal only seems to exist in the USA, not in the rest of the world. The same goes for the lunatic conservatives we see here these days. The electorate in this country is among the most ignorant ever.
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Education is not synonymous with lack of ignorance. From my experience, an uneducated foreigner is often LESS ignorant than a more educated American. In many cases this is due to the fact that Americans simply don't have the same exposure to the outside world, different ideas, etc. In a way the USA is more analogous to a place like Afghanistan... where new ideas simply struggle to penetrate pre-existing stereotypes, assumptions, etc.
We will have to agree to disagree on our definitions of "sanity." I tend to think that if the majority of the developed world thinks one way, and a small number of conservative Americans think another... it is not because the Americans led by Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, and co. are a bastion of sanity.
This is coming from someone whose biggest issue with the Republican party is their continued insistence on invoking the name of Jesus Christ to support their extremely un-Christian policies. I think that both sides of the political spectrum in this country are absolutely mad.
It's worth noting that this retreat for self-identified white students is sponsored by the ALANA Center at UVM.
"The ALANA Student Center (ASC) fully supports the holistic development of ALANA (African, Latino(a), Asian, and Native American) and Bi/Multiracial students so that as confident students of color they attain their goals for academic achievement, personal growth, identity formation, and cultural development."
My question to the organizers is: Do you really think that a joual-speaking, French-Canadian descended "white" dude from a poor family of backwoods loggers who has somehow, by some miracle, ended up getting admitted to the flagship university of his state needs to be reeducated so that he understands the multiple ways ("intersectionality") that he is privileged, on that campus, in NYC, and America at large, relative to, for example, his black male peer from an upper-middle-class family in Westchester, NY, son of a doctor and lawyer?
I don't. One disabling problem with these sorts of reeducation programs is that they tend to ignore class, or presume that race and class (i.e., whiteness and middle- or upper-classness) go together.
A second problem is that they tend to dissolve the individual and his/her actual competencies and social/psychological challenges into the meat grinder of race/class/gender, the holy triumvirate. They tend to ignore region altogether--presuming, for example, that an "urban" black person is lower-class and therefore disadvantaged, when that's not necessarily true.
Don't get me started.