BREAKING: IAAF Suspends Russian Athletics Federation

rekrunner wrote:

This looks like a pretty fair point not getting much attention. Russia and the IAAF were partners and co-conspirators. Hardly seems just that the IAAF is the one to deliver judgement for their mutual arrangement. The IAAF should recuse themselves.

The IAAF is the body that needed to decide. If they recused, who else would ban Russian from athletics for a few months? They are the top of the sport.

I'd go with a far simpler take on it: half a dozen people in the IAAF were taking bribes. They are no longer at the top, so couldn't keep a lid on it any longer. The independent commission did tis job, and they are now under criminal investigation. The system is beginning to work.

I understand that they already have a deal to "allow clean Russian athletes to compete." There is no way that Russia should be allowed to compete at all in 2016 or probably 2017. They have made a mockery of the system, with the IAAF's absolute compliance, cheating in every single event they qualified for, and they are allowed to work out a deal within days by saying, yes, we'll change, absolutely, and it is okay?

no agenda in that post ..... are you amerikan by any chance ...

look there is doping and then there is doping........

it is relative success via doping that is the marker .

And russians even if include womens middle distance are far down list .

relative success means world records ,- ethiopia you , jamica you ,kenya (800

means multiple major titles .again these countries plus usa.

and more less great britain and france even .

on an individual scale france could be bigger doper#

MEANS fast times ,etc .

Russia lack all this

4 male athletes since 2000 to be exact . no multiple ,correct me.

what 800m ,high hurgles , long jump ,high jump .

lets look at jamica and ethiopia

both countries where a select few athletes have access to new peds

and certain sets of circumstance and obvious talent and timing .

but without doping going nowhere.

we have gebreselasie and bekele getting on the MICERA before

even out on market and no tests and no hematocrit markers .

have jamicans and igf-1 lr3 and fact if can use with serious steroids

then so much more powerful than with low testosterone or stand alone .

et voila ,bolt ,powell ,blake etc

they have world records ,fast times ,titles left right and center#

the sprints why are so the dirties at mo.

reason why say if russia starts own federation and can use serious steroids

but say dont and combine with this peptide .

i gaurantee every strength record gone in 5 years

and easily produce top male sprinters again if start them on igf-1

in teens forceing progression at important time like seeing then combine

with steroids later ,watch out .

they have world records ,fast times ,title left right and center

Again as sick of this rubbish .

it is relative success via doping that is the marker

world records ,fast times ,titles

russian men and even women way down list .

aduck2022 wrote:

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world records ,fast times ,titles

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Why do you write incomprehensible text with no capitalization or punctuation, that nobody will read? If you have the energy to try to say something, why don't you at least say it legibly, so somebody might read it?

The system is working, only thanks to the French police (who are outside the system). But the point is that there is an apparent double standard. With the IAAF, we investigate individuals, but with Russia, we tentatively ban the country. And, to add insult to injury, it's the organization who accepted the bribes that have the nerve to ban the organization who bribed, with a stern "we need to send a strong message to these guys who dared to allow us to accept the money we extorted from them and their athletes".To his credit, Coe did say in a video interview that the IAAF must also examine itself, and reform, but I think it is not strong enough. If we send a strong message to Russia, we should send a similarly strong ultimatum to the IAAF to clean up, under the same threat of a permanent ban.It's simply a matter of consistency.

eurodonkey wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

This looks like a pretty fair point not getting much attention. Russia and the IAAF were partners and co-conspirators. Hardly seems just that the IAAF is the one to deliver judgement for their mutual arrangement. The IAAF should recuse themselves.

The IAAF is the body that needed to decide. If they recused, who else would ban Russian from athletics for a few months? They are the top of the sport.

I'd go with a far simpler take on it: half a dozen people in the IAAF were taking bribes. They are no longer at the top, so couldn't keep a lid on it any longer. The independent commission did tis job, and they are now under criminal investigation. The system is beginning to work.