WADA Report Live Thread

Ban Russia?

Ya sure.

The olympic comittee is garbage, the track federations are garbage, nearly all the world records are garbage. Hightower is garbage. The US of A, how are they clean generally speaking? The Carrib? anyone clean there?

After you go through the lot you have what? 20;% of the names left?

The Brojos are clean but what happens if Nike comes along and offers 4 mil for their website?

What do you do?

Track just reflects the general rotten nature of the paradigm. which is humans and their follies at this juncture.

Win at all cost. Money rules.

With the hero 10% of the population trying to figure out WTF.

Ethics are bullshit right now. Losers rule.

The only thing that I want a journalist to tackle head on in the aftermath of this report is the question of how Coe was unaware of the goings on at the IAAF.

Personally I do not doubt Coe's morals, ethics, etc etc. If he says he knew nothing, personally I believe him.

But I want to know how he was kept in the dark. Were these arrangements entirely funnelled through Diack and his family. Was no-one in an administrative or junior role at the IAAF involved at all? Did Coe become negligently blind to his colleague, or are there events and transactions which, with hindsight, should have caused him to question Diack's behaviour?

Given that every rumour in the world (no matter how unfounded!) seems to make it onto this site, why did no-one ever post "Diack is a crook, he's taking backhanders from the Russians, I know, a friend of a friend of a friend overhead them talking about in a restaurant once"?

jjjjjj wrote:

Coe has a lot to answer for as well now. Will they have the courage to expel Russia? Doubtful. Will they seriously investigate Kenya and Jamaica? Will we see the Western coverups? What was Coe's role under Diack all these years?

re: "Will we see the Western coverups"

What coverups, over the last couple of decades the USA has busted some of its highest profile athletes. The USA has the best labs and conducts the most tests; perhaps there are loopholes in the system, but I don't think anyone can say USADA is not doing their job.

Russian doping and cover up is no more or less systematic than what's occurring in other places. Nike is paying and has paid far more than Russia to support doping programs, cover up positive tests, and bribe power players to suppress test results or withhold critical information.

For this reason, I really don't think Seb Coe is the right person to lead the fight. I'm sure he will handle Russia appropriately, but he'll be unwilling to take the next step in uncovering the highest profile frauds in the sport (Mo Farah, Paula Radcliffe, and innumerable Nike sponsored Kenyans and Ethiopians.

the salazar mafia and american sprinters (the one caught) there is all indications there are many covered up by american doping agency

You believe. I am sure you believe a lot based on your upringing

except of your exceptionally talented shot putter?

larkimm wrote:

Personally I do not doubt Coe's morals, ethics, etc etc. If he says he knew nothing, personally I believe him.

Ask him about his time at FIFA's ethics panel where he saw nothing. He won't even use Seppelt's name vigorously denying the obvious.

He knows plenty.

I was laughing reading some of the NY Times article on Russia's response.

Putin's response is like Newman in Seinfeld when the police come to his door to question him about kidnapping a dog. "What took you so long".