oh my god
oh my god
Here is another article on the matter.
no words wrote:
http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2015/10/patti-stevens-wife-of-slain-white-rock-runner-took-her-own-life-police-say.html/So utterly sad.
RIP to both of them.
Such a shame. That article had some great insight onto her love for her husband.
Dallas Morning News wrote:
“Dave was the love of my life and I’m lost without him,†she said through tears Oct. 19. “People need to know that this was a wonderful person going out and doing what he loved to do.â€
Patti Stevens said then that she had trouble with sleeping, eating and even thinking clearly after her husband’s death.
When there is a murder at a school, counseling is always provided. Does anyone know if police departments/cities are set up to provide a similar type of assistance for the families of victims?
So utterly sad.
RIP to both of them.
damn
so sad,
Could the guy who killed her husband now also be charged with her death? Would think that the argument could be made that if he was not killed she would not have killed herself.
Either way I hope they add the killer of the husband to the list of those put to death in Texas this year
just an awful series of events.
“Ever has it been that love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation.†― Kahlil Gibran
rojo wrote:
no words wrote:http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2015/10/patti-stevens-wife-of-slain-white-rock-runner-took-her-own-life-police-say.html/So utterly sad.
RIP to both of them.
Such a shame. That article had some great insight onto her love for her husband.
Dallas Morning News wrote:
“Dave was the love of my life and I’m lost without him,†she said through tears Oct. 19. “People need to know that this was a wonderful person going out and doing what he loved to do.â€
Patti Stevens said then that she had trouble with sleeping, eating and even thinking clearly after her husband’s death.
When there is a murder at a school, counseling is always provided. Does anyone know if police departments/cities are set up to provide a similar type of assistance for the families of victims?
Not that I know of. You might call Baltimore PD and see if they have one.
never half way wrote
Either way I hope they add the killer of the husband to the list of those put to death in Texas this year[/quote]
Hard to say since the killer was a football player. If there is anything that Texas likes more than putting criminals to death, it is football.
So weird that a football player would be violent in real life.
The loss of a loved one is a sad place to be.
...or maybe we could consider the fact that he has a psychotic disorder and may, in fact, not be criminally responsible for this crime. If that's the case, then I hope he gets the help he needs. Either way, extremely sad for the victims family.
Gary Cartier wrote:
So weird that a football player would be violent in real life.
No kidding.
Uuuuh, even if he gets the "help he needs", he'll be locked up in a psychiatric ward. So yeah, he's not going anywhere.
And for the other question - I wouldn't think he'd be liable for the woman's suicide even if he was the actual cause unless it's held to be a natural and probable consequence of the original crime (or thereabouts). I don't think there would be any precedent for that, but maybe. There's two parts to causation: actual (also called "but for" - what's a but for, you ask? The result wouldn't have happened but for his actions) and proximate, which is really the question of whether it's fair to attribute the result to him. It would be fair if it were a natural/probable consequence, which - even though it should be - it probably isn't.
Jhfdduukkjfd wrote:
...or maybe we could consider the fact that he has a psychotic disorder and may, in fact, not be criminally responsible for this crime. If that's the case, then I hope he gets the help he needs. Either way, extremely sad for the victims family.
Actually, the initial stories about the case characterized him as a bitter guy who killed the guy as an act of hate. Interesting how they are now characterizing him as one suffering from schizophrenia.
James Overstreet wrote:
Jhfdduukkjfd wrote:...or maybe we could consider the fact that he has a psychotic disorder and may, in fact, not be criminally responsible for this crime. If that's the case, then I hope he gets the help he needs. Either way, extremely sad for the victims family.
Actually, the initial stories about the case characterized him as a bitter guy who killed the guy as an act of hate. Interesting how they are now characterizing him as one suffering from schizophrenia.
It's almost as though more facts are found over time.
This whole story is sad and infuriating.
For grief counseling, many employers who provide healthcare benefits include an employee assistance plan (EAP) that employees and family members can call for referrals on this type of counseling. Churches and the local United Way are also other resources.
Lawyer Kind Of wrote:
Uuuuh, even if he gets the "help he needs", he'll be locked up in a psychiatric ward. So yeah, he's not going anywhere.
Being "locked" (aka treated) in a psychiatric hospital is significantly different than being sentenced to death.
Gary Cartier wrote:
never half way wroteEither way I hope they add the killer of the husband to the list of those put to death in Texas this year
Hard to say since the killer was a football player. If there is anything that Texas likes more than putting criminals to death, it is football.
So weird that a football player would be violent in real life.[/quote]
Give me a break. The guy was a wide receiver. His job was to not be hit by the other team.
As for the killer, he's been diagnosed as schizophrenic. Mental illness is a real problem in this country. It's a shame he didn't get serious treatment while at A&M. If an entity with millions behind it isn't able to effectively deal with mental illness, imagine how screwed we are with the average joe on the street.
rojo wrote:
Gary Cartier wrote:Either way I hope they add the killer of the husband to the list of those put to death in Texas this year
Hard to say since the killer was a football player. If there is anything that Texas likes more than putting criminals to death, it is football.
So weird that a football player would be violent in real life.
Give me a break. The guy was a wide receiver. His job was to not be hit by the other team.
As for the killer, he's been diagnosed as schizophrenic. Mental illness is a real problem in this country. It's a shame he didn't get serious treatment while at A&M. If an entity with millions behind it isn't able to effectively deal with mental illness, imagine how screwed we are with the average joe on the street.[/quote]
It is common for criminal defendants to make up stuff (e.g., schizophrenia) in attempting to avoid punishment. Here the killer confessed to police and said he did it because he was angry:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/woman-found-dead-dallas-creek-jogger-slain-article-1.2394477He had dropped out of school and his job prospects maybe dismal. Just like the lady who plowed down those people in the Oklahoma State Univ. homecoming parade. The initial reports were that she was suicidal. Now alternate explanations are coming out by her attorney and her family.