Notre Dame Invite - Super frosh Ryen Frazier wins as does Anthony Rotich. UNM w, UTEP m roll

Several teams that might have gone to Notre Dame are at Louisville instead. Ranked teams at Louisville are:

Men:

Wisconsin (4)

Iona (8)

Michigan (10)

Mississippi (13)

Eastern Kentucky (28)

Women:

Iowa State (6)

Michigan (8)

Wisconsin (11)

West Virginia (13)

Penn State (19)

BYU (23)

All of the teams listed except for the Michigan women are going to the Wisconsin adidas meet, so they're getting a look at the Louisville course this week.

This is a nice bubble-buster meet this year, lot's of teams around that #30 spot. Should be a great way to get the right teams ranked and the over-hyped ones out.

Does ASU/UNM win or does one of the SUU types (#20+) win?

What teams get ranked after this weekend? There surely are a few that aren't ranked that should be right now licking their chops at the chance to prove it. Looks like it'll be a cool dry day, good for some fast times on a flat course.

The course was short last year

I see maybe one, two at-large points here, not a smart move to race here unless you can't get into Wisconsin for some reason or another...

Plenty of sunshine

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NE Wind 18 miles per hour

18 mph

Precipitation: 1%

Rain: 0 in

Snow: 0 in

Humidity: 40%

Cloud Cover: 10%

Dew Point: 36° F

Visibility: 10 mi

http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/l/46556:4:US

see you in louisville wrote:

This meet is on life-support. It seems like top teams are generally racing less frequently every year and this meet seems like one that has fallen out of rotation with many top teams. There are many other places that are easier to get to and/or put on a better product. ND men's team being really bad is also not helping draw teams.

The women's side is very compelling, though.

And the meet is well run.

Agree that the ND men have to get better in order for the men's race to be compelling. But, they have to get a lot better and be a legitimate GL autoqualifier. With Wisco in GL, that leaves ND fighting with Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, etc. for the second autoqualifier spot.

They need a recruiting class on the men's side like they had on the women's side this year. With fewer roster spots for men and the head coach being a sprints guy, I don't see that happening.

Big bump for UTEP. Put them in your top 10 at NCAAs! Nothing like scooping up a few Kenyans.

Results for meet can be found here:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/10/2015-joe-piane-notre-dame-invitational-results-utep-and-new-mexico-roll-ryen-frazier-and-anthony-rotich-take-individual-titles/

UTEP's 1:46 frosh Jonah Koech was third behind Anthony Rotich who got the win. NC State's frosh Ryen Frazier got the win.

In researching it for the men's side, it looks like a duel of nationally ranked teams in the 20 - 30 range and a Great Lakes, Midwest shoot out.

Candidly, I don't think many at large points will be earned because there won't be any auto-qualifiers at the meet. The nationally ranked teams are all regionally ranked 3rd - 5th.

NC State and New Mexico will have targets on their backs because they're ranked 3rd in their regions (SE and Mountain).

At least we'll get a good read on the 2nd tier of the GL and MW regions. And the individual battle will be interesting with Miscari, Awad, etc. in the mix.

I'll go out on a limb and pick NC State to win.

The New Mexico women won fairly easily with NC State second.

NC State frosh Ryen Frazier (1) won by 4 seconds, and crushed Anna Rohrer (8) by about 27 seconds.

Funny / sad that the two winners, UTEP and New Mexico, were manufactured teams.

Give credit to NC State. Came in second in both races.

Other observations from going to the meet:

McClintock looks good for AA honors again this year.

Awad and Miscari didn't fare as well as they did last year.

Griak is either a joke or Jefferson Abbey is a hill runner. He wins Griak and only comes in 6th at NDI.

Ryen Frazier is the real deal.

Molly Seidel needs to gain weight.

Great Lakes Men regional rankings are going to get reshuffled. Indiana State and IUPUI moving down with Purdue and Notre Dame moving up.

Arizona State will drop. Big time.

UTEP and Co State will jump in Mountain region. So. Utah and especially New Mexico will fall.

It appears that you have to have blond hair to run for the Florida women :)

american distance fan wrote:

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Griak is either a joke or Jefferson Abbey is a hill runner. He wins Griak and only comes in 6th at NDI.

Hawks was 10th at Griak and 5th (ahead of Abbey) at ND...

They actually look like similar quality races. Neither were great. It looks like the teams ranked 20+ are attending all these races! but the top teams are avoiding them. Putting all eggs in Pre Nat and selection race.

Makes sense, otherwise the top teams get to NCAA being very tired.

The 20+ teams have to be at these meets! otherwise they may never get to NCAA anyway...